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Straker
25-08-2017, 04:22 PM
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Nickhofen
25-08-2017, 05:00 PM
I build one of those about a year now,it is cheap and easy to build. I use it with my cnc, band saw, router table and some times I remove the dust from the workshop floor. Works grate.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4-hNfX7OKwU

Straker
25-08-2017, 05:17 PM
Thanks :)

Tbh, I don;t have time to make anything. I have seen add on cyclone units though. Would that be an idea to put inbetween my henry and the CNC?

Nickhofen
25-08-2017, 06:15 PM
Thanks :)

Tbh, I don;t have time to make anything. I have seen add on cyclone units though. Would that be an idea to put inbetween my henry and the CNC?

If you have the materials it is barely one hour work.
Yes you put the cyclone in from of the Henry and you place a plastic tube, like the one your vacuum cleaner has, on the cyclone.
Then connect this hose to your dust shoe...
Suction do the rest, the really good thing is that all the dust goes in the cyclone and the cleaner's bag stays always clean.
I have a small workshop and build guitars as a hobby and also do much woodworking, I empty the bucket once every three months.

Desertboy
26-08-2017, 07:02 AM
You've probably spent more time thinking about a cyclone than it takes to build one lol.

Straker
26-08-2017, 10:08 AM
Cheers guys.

I am going to get one of these. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DUST-COMMANDER-DLX-ESD-High-performance-cyclone-filter-element-dust-collector-/121320651132

I watched a few Youtube vids and it seems the homemade ones, made from a tub don't work as well when they start to fill up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkLo1bcDI0o

Just hope the Henry is powerful enough to suck up all the MDF dust, otherwise will have to replace that with somerthing a bit more powerful.

Boyan Silyavski
28-08-2017, 09:24 PM
You need best 2 stage vacuum cleaner with 40-60mm hose. Llavor 32 is the cleaner i use. I have 2 of them in fact. Italian motor inside, can work 24h non stop http://en.lavorwash.com/products/view/gnx-32

Could do with the Henry, they had 2 stage model i think.

Now i am selling dust shoes so have that in mind as a disclaimer, but you need a well made dust shoe where you will not loose the pressure from the long brushes. if the shoe is right, any vacuum cleaner will do well normal jobs. Still for surfacing you need the shoe to be well designed. If you have a 3d printer just follow my link from signature and Thingverse you will find the design for free. or drop me a line if you need a special size combination. I will upload it there.

Rye
31-08-2017, 03:43 PM
Hey Straker, not sure if you've got one already, but ebay has cheaper versions of the Dust-Commander.

I bought one for 14.80. Something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dust-Separation-Collector-Plastic-Cyclone-Collector-Vacuums-Cleaners-Filter-Tool-/322602838711?hash=item4b1ca0aab7

Got myself a 60 litre blue plastic barrel for it too. Costing around 8
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Storage-Barrel-60l-Drum-Litre-Water-Butt-Feed-Bin-Vortex-Dust-Commanders-/272823369716?hash=item3f858a3ff4

If your Henry isn't powerful enough, Wickes sell a great vacuum cleaner for around 40
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Wet+Dry-Vacuum-with-Blower/p/215735

Desertboy
31-08-2017, 03:47 PM
Hey Straker, not sure if you've got one already, but ebay has cheaper versions of the Dust-Commander.

I bought one for 14.80. Something like this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dust-Separation-Collector-Plastic-Cyclone-Collector-Vacuums-Cleaners-Filter-Tool-/322602838711?hash=item4b1ca0aab7

Got myself a 60 litre blue plastic barrel for it too. Costing around 8
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Storage-Barrel-60l-Drum-Litre-Water-Butt-Feed-Bin-Vortex-Dust-Commanders-/272823369716?hash=item3f858a3ff4

If your Henry isn't powerful enough, Wickes sell a great vacuum cleaner for around 40
http://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Wet+Dry-Vacuum-with-Blower/p/215735

Nice one! Was going to use a brewing bin but that's much better and not a lot more money even with delivery.

Neale
31-08-2017, 07:23 PM
I've been using and abusing one of those Wickes vacuum cleaners for the best part of 5 years now. When it blows up, as it must do one of these days considering the amount of dust (and plaster, concrete, metal swarf...) that goes into it, I'll junk it and get another one. Very interested to take a closer look at those cheap eBay cyclone separators, though.

Boyan Silyavski
31-08-2017, 08:44 PM
The separators work pretty well. I have one on top of 200l barrel. problem is they are not 100%, more like 94 %. Which means on every 100kg , 6kg of fine dust really goes into the vacuum cleaner. Which is not a great deal if you do small stuff.

Neale
31-08-2017, 08:59 PM
I'm certainly not generating "commercial" volumes of dust for my hobby work, but the fine dust does tend to clog the vacuum cleaner filter. Do these cheap separators work well with the fine dust as well as chips?

Nickhofen
31-08-2017, 09:49 PM
At the end of the day, no matter how much money you are going to spent in a system like that ,you are going to get it back from bag saving, time and nerve braking everytime you have to change a vacuum bag at the middle of a job!

Rye
01-09-2017, 07:32 PM
I'm certainly not generating "commercial" volumes of dust for my hobby work, but the fine dust does tend to clog the vacuum cleaner filter. Do these cheap separators work well with the fine dust as well as chips?

They work great. Last year when I started using the separator/barrel combo, I hammered my CNC cutting MDF. But I've not had to empty my vac once since using the setup. Next to no dust enters the vac. At most, you'll probably get a very fine film of dust in the vac over a long period of time.

Desertboy
01-09-2017, 07:36 PM
They work great. Last year when I started using the separator/barrel combo, I hammered my CNC cutting MDF. But I've not had to empty my vac once since using the setup. Next to no dust enters the vac. At most, you'll probably get a very fine film of dust in the vac over a long period of time.

Did you build a cyclone or buy an off the shelf solution?

Rye
01-09-2017, 08:12 PM
I bought the separator(14.80 from ebay UK) and a cheap blue barrel 8 (delivery was 7.99 though.) Also bought lots of ribbed hosing so I could split the system and use it to soak-up dust from the sander, bench saw and use as a vac for tidying the shed.

Just took this photo from one of my security cams to give you an idea of what it looks like:
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Excuse image quality and messy shed :)

Desertboy
01-09-2017, 08:29 PM
I really like how you did that! I might have to hack a quick cyclone out of 30l bucket and lid with pipe fittings because I have it all to hand but I definitely want to make something like your setup for a more long term solution.