Uccnc hdbb2 wiring help needed

[the great waldo]

I've got myself a uccnc hd bb2 bob that has rj45 connectors. Balazs at uccnc explained that the axis connections are as follows

HDBB2 RJ45 pin 1. step --- Drive Pul+
HDBB2 RJ45 pin 2. dir --- Drive Dir+
HDBB2 RJ45 pin 3. gnd --- Drive Pul-
HDBB2 RJ45 pin 3. gnd --- Drive Dir-

I will be wiring to 3 leadshine em705 digital drivers. Would I be correct in assuming that I could link DIR- and PULSE- on the stepper itself ? Or is there a better way to wire the drivers with this BOB ?
Cheers

Andrew

[Boyan Silyavski]

This drive seems to have NPN control signal wiring only and differential. Meaning opposite of what your BOB , common + instead of - , so check further BOB manual, drive manual and ask again if needed. read drive manual and see if that could be changed via jumper or sth. And if not- they are not compatible

[A_Camera]

I've got myself a uccnc hd bb2 bob that has rj45 connectors. Balazs at uccnc explained that the axis connections are as follows

HDBB2 RJ45 pin 1. step --- Drive Pul+
HDBB2 RJ45 pin 2. dir --- Drive Dir+
HDBB2 RJ45 pin 3. gnd --- Drive Pul-
HDBB2 RJ45 pin 3. gnd --- Drive Dir-

I will be wiring to 3 leadshine em705 digital drivers. Would I be correct in assuming that I could link DIR- and PULSE- on the stepper itself ? Or is there a better way to wire the drivers with this BOB ?
Cheers

Andrew

Hi,

Not sure I understand what you mean about linking DIR- and PULSE- on the stepper itself. Unless you have a special stepper with a built-in driver there is no DIR and PULSE on a stepper. Steppers normally only have winding connectors and those are connected to the driver (your Leadshine) motor side, which provides the current and voltage necessary for the motors. DIR and PULSE signals are provided by the motion controller, in my case the UC300ETH, and those signals are connected to a BoB through the DB25 (or other connector types) to drive the opto couplers of the stepper drivers which handles the motors. Do NOT connect the PUL- and the DIR- to the steppers at all, unless you have a special stepper with built in driver.

The last page shows how to connect the driver. (http://www.leadshine.com/UploadFile/Down/EM705d_V1.1.pdf)

[the great waldo]

Hi A-Camera

I made a typing error. What I meant to ask can I connect the dir- and the puls - on the stepper driver, as the pin out that Balazs mentioned used one pin on the rj45 socket for both connections. I was wondering if pulse - and dir- are connected together somewhere or they go to ground?

Regards

Andrew

[m_c]

EM drives have differential inputs, but canbe connected as single ended in NPN or PNP type setups.

What you want is to connect the drive -'s to gnd, and then the step/dir to the drive +'s.
And yes, you could connect the drive -'s together at the drive.

[the great waldo]

Thanks m_c

I'm a newbie at all this cnc stuff but am learning by doing (and asking) I'm hoping that the uccnc hdbb2 board is a reasonable one compared to all the other chinese bob's. The uccnc software has been a delight to use. I'm only using the usb uc100 version (contemplating uc300 if it's a worthwhile update) My main use for cnc is woodworking (guitar making) some plastic routing pickguards and maybe a little Ali or brass machining. The manual for the hdbb2 is a bit high tech, I think I need a "trigger" version as opposed to the "del boy" version. Thanks to all on the forum that answer my query's and sorry if sometimes all is not clear 1 o'clock in the morning the brain can be a bit loose after a hard day.

Cheers

Andrew

[Boyan Silyavski]

EM drives have differential inputs, but canbe connected as single ended in NPN or PNP type setups.

What you want is to connect the drive -'s to gnd, and then the step/dir to the drive +'s.
And yes, you could connect the drive -'s together at the drive.

In the manual of the drive it says only NPN and differential? No words for PNP

[the great waldo]

EM drives have differential inputs, but canbe connected as single ended in NPN or PNP type setups.

What you want is to connect the drive -'s to gnd, and then the step/dir to the drive +'s.
And yes, you could connect the drive -'s together at the drive.

Hi m_c

I hope i'm not being a pain. Would it be ok to connect the (hdbb2 rj45 pin 3 LPT port ground) to the dir - then a link from there to pulse - ? assuming that the ground would come from the bob. Or would I have to run a connection from the pulse - to the gnd. point on the stepper driver ?
Thanks in advance.

Andrew

[m_c]

Boyan, the EM hardware manual shows all three connection types (NPN, PNP, Differential) - http://leadshine.com/UploadFile/Down/EMhm_P.pdf

Andrew, for the step/dir signals, you want to stick with the signal ground (i.e. the one from the BOB), and not mix them with any of the power grounds.
The power grounds should be connected to the signal ground at some point, however you don't want to be using any ground wire that is carrying high currents (i.e. the stepper supply), as it risks problems with interference/noise.

[Boyan Silyavski]

Sorry, the manual i have downloaded showed only 2 possible connections, which is strange. Good to know. I thought that strange anyway.

[the great waldo]

Thanks M_c
Balazs from uccnc got in touch with me and said pretty much the same. The pin 3 on the rj45 socket i'll wire to Dir- and link Dir - to the Pulse - . Its a shame they didn't use the pin4 on the rj45 socket as an extra contact to simplify the wiring . Although I suppose I could just bridge the pads on the circuit board between pins 3 and 4 or just link at the stepper driver (probably easier) I wish the manual for the hdbb2 was a bit less technical. For simple folk like me :beer:

Thanks for your help

Andrew

[m_c]

Sorry, the manual i have downloaded showed only 2 possible connections, which is strange. Good to know. I thought that strange anyway.

The EM series, although very similar features, have variations between the drives, so you get the generic EM series manuals, and drive specific datasheets.
EM402 and 806 are very similar apart from voltage/current ratings.
EM503 and 705 are also similar.

However the pairs vary in what inputs they can handle. 402 and 806 are step/dir only with a minimum pulse timing of 2.5uS, whereas the 503 and 705 can also handle CW/CCW, but have a minimum pulse width requirement of 10uS.
The physical inputs/outputs are very similar, except IIRC on the 503 and 705 the enable signal is 24V tolerant, whereas the 402 and 806 you need to add an external resistor if using more than 5V for enable.

[the great waldo]

Well I'm getting to grips with the HDbb2 board wired up a stepper power supply the Leadshine em705 drivers and the bob. The motor did what it was supposed to do went round. When I pushed the velocity settings up on the motor the driver stalled into red light error. I could only reset the drivers by turning the power on and off. Would I be correct in assuming that the drivers could be reset with the FLT+ or - connection. If i'm right where would I connect this to the bob ? Any help gratefully accepted.

Cheers
ANdrew

[m_c]

FLT is an output signal.
If you want to reset the drives without having to cycle power, you have to use the enable signal, and configure the drives via software to reset on enable.

[the great waldo]

Hi M_C

Would that be the ENA+ or - connection on the 705 ? or would that be in the uccnc software. There is a reset input on pins 23-24 and error I/O on pins 21-22 on the hbbb2 board could I use those connections. The instructions on the hdbb2 board are not very Wally friendly.

Cheers

Andrew