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Millatime16
11-04-2018, 11:21 AM
Hi.

I have just bought a Dust Commander Vortex and am setting it up with my CNC machine.

At the moment I am going to use my Henry hoover which I have been using to follow the mill round as it cuts, but it is laborious doing this so I want to set up a vac connected to the brush shoe.

I assume the Henry will not be powerful enough. Can you recommend a small inexpensive vac that is a better choice over the Henry? (Space is an issue, so nothing large)

Thanks

Neale
11-04-2018, 04:11 PM
I've been using one of these (https://www.wickes.co.uk/Wickes-Wet+Dry-Vacuum-with-Blower/p/215735)for a few years. It's taken a lot of abuse in that time and just keeps on working. If it breaks, I'll be getting another one. However, the noise is one reason I use ear defenders when running the router... Price has gone up a bit (I paid about £35, as I remember) but still looks a good buy. But someone else will point you at something better and cheaper - they always do when I suggest something!

Millatime16
11-04-2018, 04:17 PM
Thanks.

I'm not sure what the power of the Henry is, but that looks more substantial. Cheers :)

cropwell
11-04-2018, 04:53 PM
I have been using the same one as Neale and it IS noisy. Domestic vacuum cleaners have recently been subject to legislation to limit the power, but that doesn't seem to apply to workshop vacs. The one mentioned is 1250W as is this one https://www.aldi.co.uk/workzone-electric-blower-and-vacuum/p/080727177603400 which is currently on sale. I would buy one, but I have already spent my pocket money this week :sorrow:

Brushed motor vacs are not really intended for long switch-on periods and the brushless motor ones are much quieter and designed to run continuously. I have thought about buying something like this http://www.power-motor.com/Products/LongLifeVacuumCleane.html and building my own canister using the remains of my old vac when it burns out (hopefully not literally!).

My current setup is this 24052

Boyan Silyavski
11-04-2018, 07:23 PM
The Henry i believe is a 2 stage motor, so miles better. I use 2 stage motor and it sucks incredibly well. Not always needed, but sometimes i cut in a way that brushes could not be used, so then it sucks small particles from air above cut.

Dean jeffery
12-04-2018, 03:30 PM
I’ve been using the Dyson DC27 for almost 2 years, its used mainly for sucking up carbon it’s lasted well and sucked up damp alloy chips 🤦🏻*♂️ the motors started playing now so I’ve replaced it with this.

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F 132456079693

Listings wrong it claims 1250W but the box and instructions state 1000W will be testing it at the weekend, but if it’s crap then I will replace with another trusty Dyson.

needleworks
12-04-2018, 03:44 PM
I also use a wickes own brand, can't fault it!

Neale
12-04-2018, 05:41 PM
My current setup is this 24052

What's the cyclone setup you are using, and how well does it work? I keep thinking of having a go at knocking up something but can't quite get it to the top of the to-do list.

Millatime16
12-04-2018, 06:04 PM
The Henry i believe is a 2 stage motor, so miles better. I use 2 stage motor and it sucks incredibly well. Not always needed, but sometimes i cut in a way that brushes could not be used, so then it sucks small particles from air above cut.

The Henry I have is 680w. Is a 2 stage better than the Wikes one?

I see Henry do a more powerful 1060w industrial one.

Boyan Silyavski
12-04-2018, 08:33 PM
I personally use Lavor vac and its a 2 stage Italian made motor. 2 stage matters, if you can afford it. It makes very serious vacuum.

Millatime16
12-04-2018, 08:37 PM
I personally use Lavor vac and its a 2 stage Italian made motor. 2 stage matters, if you can afford it. It makes very serious vacuum.

I just checked Lavor VAC 20 on ebay (£64,99). Do you use it with a Vortex?

magicniner
13-04-2018, 01:11 AM
Lidl have one in now for under £40, use with a vortex ash collector and you should be good.

cropwell
13-04-2018, 01:51 AM
Hi Neale,

In answer to your query -----

One of the problems with the cyclone is that - if it picks up any greasy dust, it sticks to the wall of the cyclone and kills the effect. Also it does not seem to separate fine MDF dust very well.

The actual setup is one of these https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plastic-Cyclone-Filter-Dust-Collector-For-Vacuums-Dust-Extractor-Separator-Tool/302605569237?hash=item4674b28cd5:m:mN3xIeVXhsRqlRO dF1V_Abg and an ash can which I bought some time ago for £10 - ish. Then there were a couple of 3D printed hose adapters and blanking plates.
If it all fell to pieces, I wouldn't put it at the top of my list to repair it. For what I do a straight vac cleaner would be enough.