I need Help/Support with my project :)

[gianluca_g]

hello,
if anyone care to help me with my project, please look here:
Wooden engraved photos and clocks -- Indiegogo (http://www.indiegogo.com/art-and-wood?a=568549)
just 2 minutes of your time to look at that page... if you want you can partecipate, or just like my page on facebook to help spread the voice around... thank you

[John S]

Why not get a small business loan instead of scamming. Many on here have started for less and learnt more.

[gianluca_g]

simply because with no job and no properties.... the bank just laugh at me... i dont inted to scam anyone, sorry if you understood that

[John S]

Start off selling thing you can do with no equipment like selling the plans.

[gianluca_g]

thanks for the suggestion, but if you had took the time to read at that link, you would have know that's what I'm doing

[John S]

I did read it, $50 for a pdf of what?
You don't even show what you will receive. Sorry cold hard world out there and you have to compete with it.
Brian Law has free plans but better than free he shows you what they are.

http://www.woodenclocks.co.uk/index.htm

To succeed you need to show what the punter will receive and make him part with his cash, so far you haven't impressed me. This might appear negative but believe me it's only showing where you are lacking.

[gianluca_g]

I have free plans on my website too... even gave away free dxf and 3D models and building instructions and suggestions on another forum
http://www.cncitalia.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=13079
this was just to show you that I'm not really a crook like you seem to think... thanks for pointing out what you think is wrong.

[John S]

Gianluca,
Sorry we seem to be getting off on the wrong foot, I wasn't accusing you of being a crook but possibly with English not being you first language and how your page is laid out it can be interpreted as such. Basically give me your money at at some point in the future I'll send you some not very well defined goods.

A wooden picture. Of what? How big? Can you use a photo sent in or has it got to be your choice? Again many unanswered questions that will stop anyone from funding you.

[gianluca_g]

A wooden picture. Of what? How big? Can you use a photo sent in or has it got to be your choice? Again many unanswered questions that will stop anyone from funding you.

this is what is written there on that site:
You will receive a free wooden picture 150 x 200 mm (don't forget to send me your picture to be reproduced!)
along with the explanation of what those pictures are, and a video showing some of them....

[John S]

Sorry, yes you are correct but I had to go back and search for it.
How many don't bother ?
I think I'd better stop before you think I'm having a go at you which isn't the case.

[gianluca_g]

don't worry John :) you did well pointing out what you think, I hope that if someone is interested in the project WILL bother to read all and find out. The reason i posted that link here is just to humbly ask to "like" that link on facebook or whatever to help me spread the voice... actually I don't think that people that have or use a CNC machine needs ME to do those pictures or clocks... they can easily do them by themselves :)

[JAZZCNC]

Gianluca Johns points are valid I lasted approx 2.2 seconds before thinking this is a scam.!!

I would love a ferrari and I promise that if you give me the money to buy, insure and run the machine I will take for a spin in it.!! Giving you a memory you will never forget.??

Nobody in there right mind is going to give money to buy you a CNC machine just on the pormise you will make them a picture or clock.!! Especially given the amounts your asking.? $10 for a post card.!! . . . $20 for a 20% discount on a $100 frame so that will 0% discount on an already stupidly expensive picture.!! . . . COME ON man get REAL!!
Yes while your not exactly Scamming people you are trying to take advantage of peoples kind nature giving very little back in return and I for one wont be passing on or helping your Campaign or wishig you any success. . . . GET off your arse and earn the money with dignity like the rest of us have to do and stop begging and sponging off others.!!!

[John S]

Jazz,
If you want a Ferrari have mine, dunno why I bought it, last time I listen to that idiot Clarkson. Can't even get a pair of gas bottles in it, I mean what fooking use is that ?

[JAZZCNC]

Jazz,
If you want a Ferrari have mine, dunno why I bought it, last time I listen to that idiot Clarkson. Can't even get a pair of gas bottles in it, I mean what fooking use is that ?

Tut ye the tosser thought he'd mentioned that wunt ya.!! Throw bar on it and I'll knock ya a rack up for bottles. .:witless:

[John S]

I'll knock ya a rack up for bottles. .:witless:

True story,

used to work for a haulage company years ago run by small family concern, father and son, mother in office. Father, Frank was real old school, hard nosed, knew all the tricks. Son, Dennis was the nearest thing I have ever come across as a playboy in real life.
Did stock car racing, no expense spared but in all fairness he was good, red top, and you can't get that on money alone.

Anyway Dennis buys a Aston DB6, brand new , then decides that for local events he can take the stock car on a trailer instead of running the converted fire engine we had as a transporter.

Goes shopping and comes back all dejected because no one makes towing bracket for a DB6. Can't understand why no one doesn't want to tow with a DB6 ?
So we had to make one for him in the workshop !!

[m.marino]

John that is about as funny as the time I saw, physically saw a 1.5 Liter engine Goldwing towing a A Harley down the highway headed for Sturgis. We caught up to the rider and passenger at a fuel station a ways down the road and asked. Seems that the HD according to this couple is great for cruising short distances but not for going from Southern Texas to Sturgis. The HD was a Roadking fully tricked out. Go figure.

Michael

[John S]

Apparently 95% of all Harley's ever made are still on the road.

The other 5% made it home........................