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asto
02-09-2013, 07:24 PM
994799489949Hi Everybody.
I have this machine for sale with or without the electronics.
There is some power supply problem.
And I had to remove data plate for painting.
So it makes sense buying it for someone planing to upgrade to today's electronics and software.
This cost me 1500 pounds.
i am looking for 1250.

Nemo1966
05-09-2013, 01:36 PM
Where in the World are you?

John S
05-09-2013, 03:28 PM
Attica, Greece.

Mind you by the time you take the bail out off the 1250 it will be a cheap machine.
Asto will only owe you 14 million euro's :beer:

Nemo1966
05-09-2013, 04:07 PM
Thought this was a UK forum....

irving2008
05-09-2013, 04:34 PM
Thought this was a UK forum....
It is, but we have a fair smattering of overseas members, it all adds to the interest :)

asto
05-09-2013, 08:54 PM
Thanks folks.
So Nemo you had all your questions answered without me having to add a word.
I had to travel to UK (midlands) where the model engineering exhibition was taking place to aquire this machine
Just in case you need some more info about this Triac mill you can use my email <seaman177@yahoo.com>

cheers

Gunny
22-09-2013, 09:22 PM
I'll buy it if you can get it back to where you bought it from (midlands) :-)

Nemo1966
22-09-2013, 09:25 PM
Haha already had that conversat:redface:ion

asto
26-09-2013, 08:49 PM
Haha already had that conversat:redface:ion

...but if someone has the old electronics of an Orac Denford lathe i can buy them for 200 and then he gets the machine for 1050 pounds.
How about that.

Nemo1966
05-10-2013, 04:20 PM
The problem with the UK is that will import duties etc the price would probably triple! The UK is such a rip off. Then you'd have to convert to mach 3.

m_c
05-10-2013, 04:35 PM
The problem with the UK is that will import duties etc the price would probably triple! The UK is such a rip off. Then you'd have to convert to mach 3.

Import duty does not apply within the EU.

birchy
05-10-2013, 04:37 PM
Probably be cheaper to move to Greece. :cool:

Nemo1966
05-10-2013, 04:46 PM
Import duty does not apply within the EU.

It may well not - however the UK will manage to extract the money out of you another way. e.g. VAT

IanS1
05-10-2013, 04:52 PM
Greece is in the EU, you will not pay any VAT or import duties.

m_c
05-10-2013, 05:09 PM
It may well not - however the UK will manage to extract the money out of you another way. e.g. VAT

Do you think other countries don't have import duties or some form of VAT?

asto
07-10-2013, 06:17 PM
[QUOTE=m_c;50228]Do you think other countries don't have import duties or some form of VAT?[/QUOTE

...Please allow me to add some thoughts here.
Value Added Tax it is right? So someone buys raw material like brass for example-useless at this form- then machines the brass and makes brass gears and finally sells these at three times the price he paid for the raw material. He added value to that metal and in this case the buyer not him has to pay the VAT because he bought a brand new item.
This is a realy old machine and the VAT has been paid already by the first owner/buyer. Who says the new buyer has to pay again VAT?
And this is the reason why European Union by low makes clear that second hand goods buyers within the EU countries do not pay VAT. I just disregard the code number of this partcular law. Just go to a EU official representative and ask for an abstract to show to the customs when the machine arrives.

Nemo1966
07-10-2013, 07:53 PM
This is a realy old machine and the VAT has been paid already by the first owner/buyer. Who says the new buyer has to pay again VAT?

The ripoff UK government.

If you are not vat registered then you do pay vat again. Just because something is old it doesn't make it VAT exempt. If I bought a Picasso I'd have to pay vat and that would be a lot older than a modern milling machine. If I was VAT registered then I could claim the VAT back.

Take a look on e b a y UK a lot of the bigger lathes on there are second hand but the prices are quoted at plus VAT.

m_c
07-10-2013, 07:53 PM
Asto, I'm very well aware of how VAT works, I was just highlighting that VAT and import duties aren't unique to the UK.

asto
10-10-2013, 10:14 PM
Asto, I'm very well aware of how VAT works, I was just highlighting that VAT and import duties aren't unique to the UK.

Sorry about that. Of course everyone knows about VAT.
But I did not mean it this way

regards

F_Lopo
07-02-2016, 08:28 PM
Hi Astro,

I'd please like to know if you still have the Triac as I'd like to buy it from you.
I'm planning on doing a Mach3/Linux CNC conversion
Thank you,

Regards