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alboy
22-09-2013, 12:01 PM
Hi all

Found this machine on ebay, what would your opinions be, It looks like a chinese import.

CNC Router 3kw Spindle 1200* x 1300* x 200 Work Area- Complete! Vacuum Bed! | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/CNC-Router-3kw-Spindle-1200-x-1300-x-200-Work-Area-Complete-Vacuum-Bed/151120391251?rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%2 6asc%3D286%26meid%3D1464117812445683453%26pid%3D10 0005%26prg%3D1048%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D5%26sd%3D151120 977287%26)

The only strange thing is there are 2 machines for sale with identical descriptions but different pics.

Alan

John S
22-09-2013, 12:07 PM
Different sizes

D-man
22-09-2013, 01:20 PM
I was looking at this a while back. Either the guy makes them or something is putting the punters off. Mind you I have not read the description. But same old pics as when I looked also.

Personal I like it. If I had the cash I would defiantly think about it.

~andy
22-09-2013, 07:30 PM
These are a standard Chinese design. You can import them cheaper.

D-man
22-09-2013, 07:32 PM
Now that, I would be interested in! Don't suppose you know where?

Jonathan
22-09-2013, 07:38 PM
Now that, I would be interested in! Don't suppose you know where?

Plenty on AliExpress.com - Online Shopping for Electronics, Fashion, Home & Garden, Toys & Sports, Automobiles from China. (http://www.aliexpress.com)
Probably best to ask on CNC zone if you're interested in getting one as there seems to be a lot of people there discussing them.

birchy
22-09-2013, 09:22 PM
As said above, that type of machine is readily available direct from China. Depending on spec, they start at around 1500. The one you link to on eBay is around the 2500 mark. I guess the seller has been a bit too greedy and could probably sell these like hot cakes at a more realistic 3000 - 3500.

~andy
22-09-2013, 09:34 PM
With a machine this size, the shipping will be to a sea port (Felixstowe normally). You have to pay duty, VAT and freight forwarder fees.

I've considered this before as I live close to the port and have family in the transport business.

As birchy says, people would pay 3500 for one in the UK. Fine for wood work.

I love seeing the "factory" pictures on AliExpress.

alboy
22-09-2013, 11:43 PM
As said above, that type of machine is readily available direct from China. Depending on spec, they start at around 1500. The one you link to on eBay is around the 2500 mark. I guess the seller has been a bit too greedy and could probably sell these like hot cakes at a more realistic 3000 - 3500.

I have been getting some quotes for the chinese machines and have so far got the following info. all show vac table as extra.

Exitech 1212 2,2kw spindle 1220 x 1220 ........$5300
Omni 1212 2.2kw spindle 1200 x 1200 Rack and pinion $5150
Omni 1212 2.2kw spindle 1200 x 1200 Ballscrew $3950
( I thought ballscrew was generally more expensive than R&P?)
Jinang King Rabbit 3kw spindle, 1300 x 2500 $4500

Vacuum tables vary in price from $500 to $1,990 depending on manufacturer and type.

On top of this price you would have to add the following.
shipping to nearest port (anything from $300 to $1700)
transport from port to workshop probably $400 to $500
Import duties depending on country
Demmurage charges and customs clearance.
And VAT on top of everything

So going for the cheapest option
$3950 router
$500 vac table
$300 shipping
$400 transport from port of delivery
Sub total $5150
Import duty (depends on taric listing, still trying to find out) but lets guess at 20%
$1030
+23% vat on top of all of this $1421 dollars

Grand total $7601
That's approx 4,745 sterling and 5,621 Euro

So the price on ebay doesnt look that bad.

Alan

Musht
23-09-2013, 01:51 PM
....on eBay is around the 2500 mark. I guess the seller has been a bit too greedy and could probably sell these like hot cakes at a more realistic 3000 - 3500.

Sure they would sell at 3 grand like hotcakes but he wouldn`t even cover his costs.

Even 2.5K is 3K with just the VAT added, but there is quite a few more incidentals than that to cover, too big to air freight and sea shipping becomes a whole different ball game, been talked about here before

http://www.mycncuk.com/forums/marketplace-discussion/4717-import-duties-rapped-me.html