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dsc
06-03-2015, 01:14 PM
Gents,

I'm currently cleaning up an old vice and would like to repaint it, which of course means removing the old paint. Any suggestions on what works best for this? mind you I'll be doing this inside, at home (not in a garage) so I'd prefer something safe, even if it means it needs to sit overnight or takes longer. The vice is a size B00, bit bigger than my hand (and I have fairly standard hands), so generally I can soak it in a bucket or easily maneuver etc.

Cheers,
T.

magicniner
06-03-2015, 10:33 PM
The weather's not too bad so I'd do it outside with Nitromorse, wearing overalls, gloves & glasses.
I don't know of a good "safe" paint stripper, as with a gun the real safety is the user ;-)

- Nick

Musht
08-03-2015, 12:52 AM
Nitromors is no fun since they removed the DCM, very much an outdoor activity, sure heard of DCM and wallpaper paste being used

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Methylene-Chloride-Dichloromethane-99-5-1-Litre-1L-/201289110915?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item2eddc41583

Or soak in caustic soda, its what dip-n-strip used,

Or mebbe really just need loose paint off before repainting?

dsc
08-03-2015, 06:30 PM
I've heard Nitromors is no longer any good, apparently does very little on stubborn paint. DCM on the other hand - apparently nasty stuff and can corrode metal if what they say on the internet is true. Found that 3M does something called Tal-strip II which is meant to be super quick and works on pretty much anything, shame it's hard to get in the UK.

Thinking about inside vs outside I do have a bit of a green area outside of the house, so indeed with the weather getting better I can stick something in a bucket / cardboard box and leave it to work, then use double gloves / mask to clean off and get primed for painting. I'd like to get the old paint off as it's chipped in places and if I just repaint it will look sloppy.

T.

Wal
09-03-2015, 01:18 PM
A bit of a curve-ball, but I bought some of this an age ago:

https://www.trade1st.co.uk/trade-strip-graffiti-go-500ml?gclid=CPjS_oysm8QCFYrLtAodwzUAAA

It worked wonderfully for it's intended purpose (removing graffiti) but recently I used it on a small section of old-school powder-coat. I left it on for 20 minutes or so, after which the coat slid off - I barely needed to touch it.

For something that's safe/non-solvent/smells of apples, it's ridiculously powerful.

Wal.

MikeyC38
09-03-2015, 01:26 PM
Hi Guys

I've used the following "Peelaway 7" on stubborn wood stain and it does the job beautifully, although it is not cheap but extremely effective. See here http://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/product/peelaway-seven. Works on wood, metal stone etc. The best paint remover I have ever used!

Also Paint Panther is good. Cheaper than Peelaway but more faff involved and definitely better/nicer than the reformulated Nitromors . See here http://www.wood-finishes-direct.com/product/paint-varnish-remover

Regards
Mike

Blackrat
09-03-2015, 05:08 PM
wirebrush , if you dont have an angle grinder , then maybe a drill ? wirebrush attachments work great !

if not by hand ...

but as mentioned , if the paint is sticking , id use it as a primer and just paint over after wiping down with thinners/acetone

dsc
10-03-2015, 10:09 AM
In the end I've decided to try Peelaway, got the sample pack with both the Peelaway 1 and 7, should arrive today. Not so sure on the use of the 'blanket', but I'm guessing it's there to limit access to air and let the chemicals work with no oxygen? Dunno how well that's going to work on a rather complicated piece like a vice.

Yesterday I've used some Corrossion X Rust Remover on some spots, brushed it on, worked really well, although some pieces have to be left overnight. Next part is to buy some enamel paint and get the thing finished.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

T.

MikeyC38
10-03-2015, 12:54 PM
In the end I've decided to try Peelaway, got the sample pack with both the Peelaway 1 and 7, should arrive today. Not so sure on the use of the 'blanket', but I'm guessing it's there to limit access to air and let the chemicals work with no oxygen? Dunno how well that's going to work on a rather complicated piece like a vice.

Yesterday I've used some Corrossion X Rust Remover on some spots, brushed it on, worked really well, although some pieces have to be left overnight. Next part is to buy some enamel paint and get the thing finished.

Thanks for all the suggestions!

T.

Hi Dsc.
Put it on as a 2-3mm thick coat evenly all over, cover with the thin plastic sheet they supply and leave for 24 hours. Lift a small piece, should peelway all paint down to bare metal. I've done this on stairs with a dark wood stain an varnish and it completely removed the stain and varnish. All I had to do afterwards was to sand down ready for painting!

Regards
Mike

dsc
10-03-2015, 05:09 PM
Cheers Mike, will try it tonight. Just ordered some gloss Paragon Paint, planning to have it all done this week.

Rgds,
T.

dsc
11-03-2015, 11:13 PM
I've tried Peelaway 7, the safer one and it worked fine, didn't get any of the paper to stick to the paste, it simply peeled off and I had to get the rest of the gunk off with the spatula which is pretty annoying on complicated surfaces. Today I've tried the Peelaway 1, works faster and well, but it's also annoying due to all the paste left over, especially in the tight spots. If you can't get access to peel stuff off in one go it becomes really messy with the paste smearing all over with the half melted paint inside, thus colouring other already clean areas.

I guess something aggressive would've worked better on these cast parts, dipping and leaving for a while is probably the only way to work this quick.

T.