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Chaz
15-03-2016, 01:27 PM
I bought myself a Boxford Model A lathe on the weekend. I had already bought a small Sanvik tool to 'turn' with on my Denford mill but then decided to just get a proper (small) lathe.

It came with a lot of home made HSS tools but looking to get some tools for what I need to do. I like the idea of the indexable tools.

The Sanvik stuff is good, but expensive. I also dont know all the options that I need. I am looking at generally machining alu, but I will need to do some specific parts for my new CNC Mill build which is here - http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/9616-Thor-or-should-that-be-Zeus

Would this cheap set be any good to start with?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/141668697570

I could look at just getting the basics. Something to face with, something to part with, something to bore with.

I buy mills from APT and I like their stuff. They list some cutting tools for steel and alu separately. Can I compromise and just have 1 tool (for both materials), even if I need to machine a bit slower etc?

http://www.shop-apt.co.uk/boring-bar-sets-for-aluminium.html

http://www.shop-apt.co.uk/boring-bar-sets-for-steel.html

http://www.shop-apt.co.uk/turning-tool-sets-for-aluminium.html

http://www.shop-apt.co.uk/turning-tool-sets-for-steel/turning-set-95-deg-16x16-shank-with-10-cnmg-120408-dp25-inserts-for-steel.html

Above are the kind of things I am looking at. I dont want to buy two sets of the same tool at around 50 per go if I can avoid it.

Thanks

Boyan Silyavski
16-03-2016, 05:56 AM
The basics are to have HSS tools and learn to grind them, sharpen them and use them. That will save you a lot of money on the long run.

That's what a friend told me, and i am where you are,just learning the lathe on a small model makers one.

My lathe came with a lot of tools. I have a set like the first one you show and use it for all, especially when i am in doubt about the which HSS tool to use. Though i have one favourite HSS and tend to use it for all and regrind it to my liking for the case.


I think you should first concentrate on the tool post, the commodity of it and eventual upgrade, if needed, cause it will decide what size and type of tools would fit in, especially the boring bars.

Chaz
16-03-2016, 08:50 AM
The basics are to have HSS tools and learn to grind them, sharpen them and use them. That will save you a lot of money on the long run.

That's what a friend told me, and i am where you are,just learning the lathe on a small model makers one.

My lathe came with a lot of tools. I have a set like the first one you show and use it for all, especially when i am in doubt about the which HSS tool to use. Though i have one favourite HSS and tend to use it for all and regrind it to my liking for the case.


I think you should first concentrate on the tool post, the commodity of it and eventual upgrade, if needed, cause it will decide what size and type of tools would fit in, especially the boring bars.

Thanks. Agreed. A cheapish toolpost for my setup is around 105 and comes with 4 holders. This should get me started.

There are then some requirements for me to bore out. In the bunch of tools I got a few boring bars, mostly hand made. One is actually nicer looking but its too wide to fit into the toolpost, so not sure how / where it was used before.

So that set of tools, 55ish, worth going for to get started?

Boyan Silyavski
16-03-2016, 08:59 AM
So that set of tools, 55ish, worth going for to get started?

I think so. Though i can not get a good look at the parting tool. Though i believe parting tool like boring bars, should be chosen separately and worth the extra investment. Buy some extra inserts and you are ready. You can sharpen the inserts also, you know.

Chaz
16-03-2016, 09:02 AM
I think so. Though i can not get a good look at the parting tool. Though i believe parting tool like boring bars, should be chosen separately and worth the extra investment. Buy some extra inserts and you are ready. You can sharpen the inserts also, you know.

Agreed. What I found is that many of the inserts for parting tools tend to say ok for steel etc but not for alu. So not sure. Certainly for boring and parting, I agree, look at specific more expensive tools.

Chaz
16-03-2016, 09:57 AM
I think so. Though i can not get a good look at the parting tool. Though i believe parting tool like boring bars, should be chosen separately and worth the extra investment. Buy some extra inserts and you are ready. You can sharpen the inserts also, you know.

The other option is to buy 2nd hand good quality stuff on fleabay. Loads of Sandvik stuff for sale. The toolpost Ill get has a 16mm holder capacity, so would like to maximise and use that.

Chaz
16-03-2016, 06:16 PM
The other thing that worries me about the cheap import stuff, what inserts does it use? Will they be any good?