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iD2
19-05-2016, 07:25 PM
Hello, This my first time post at this forum. Let's go to see my design first and this was the 3rd machine i design , the other 2 model you can see it at my blog --> iD2CNC.com (https://id2cnc.com/build-log/)

For dual Y axis --> iD2CNC v.2.0 (Dual Y Axis) (https://id2cnc.com/build-log/diy-cnc-step-by-step/)
For single Y axis --> iD2CNC v.1.0 (https://id2cnc.com/build-log/diy-cnc-v-1-0-full-detail/)

Start with my design ::
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iD2CNC-SS Machine v.1.0 Specification (65cm x 45cm x 15cm , XYZ) ::
Machine working area 650mm x 450mm.
Machine size 1,050mm x 800mm x 750mm (width (X) x length (Y) x height (Z)).
Linear rod rail size 16mm (RM1605/RM1610) for all axis.
Ball screw 16mm (RM1605/1610) for all axis.
Use standard ball screw support BK/BF12 , FK/FF12.
Aluminum frame use aluminum alloy 5083 10mm & 12mm.
Design using metric unit (mm).
iD2CNC-SS Machine v.1.0 Specification (65cm x 65cm x 15cm , XYZ) ::
Machine working area 650mm x 650mm.
Machine size 1,050mm x 1,000mm x 750mm (width (X) x length (Y) x height (Z)).
Linear rod rail size 16mm (RM1605/RM1610) for all axis.
Ball screw 16mm (RM1605/1610) for all axis.
Use standard ball screw support BK/BF12 , FK/FF12.
Aluminum frame use aluminum alloy 5083 10mm & 12mm.
Design using metric unit (mm).
iD2CNC-SS Machine v.1.0 Specification (65cm x 85cm x 15cm , XYZ) ::
Machine working area 850mm x 650mm.
Machine size 1,050mm x 1,200mm x 750mm (width (X) x length (Y) x height (Z)).
Linear rod rail size 16mm (RM1605/RM1610) for all axis.
Ball screw 16mm (RM1605/1610) for all axis.
Use standard ball screw support BK/BF12 , FK/FF12.
Aluminum frame use aluminum alloy 5083 10mm & 12mm.
Design using metric unit (mm).
iD2CNC-SP Machine v.1.0 Specification (65cm x 65cm x 15cm , XYZ) ::
Machine working area 650mm x 650mm x 150mm , XYZ.
Machine size 950mm x 1,050mm x 780mm (width (X) x length (Y) x height (Z)).
Linear rod rail size 16mm (RM1605) for Z axis.
Linear rod rail size 20mm (RM2005 / 2010) for X,Y axis.
Ball screw 16mm (RM1605) for Z axis.
Ball screw 20mm (RM2005/2010) for X,Y axis.
Use standard ball screw support BK/BF12 , FK/FF15.
Aluminum frame use aluminum alloy 5083 10mm & 12mm & 15mm.
Design using metric unit (mm).
iD2CNC-SP Machine v.1.0 Specification (65cm x 85cm x 15cm , XYZ) ::
Machine working area 650mm x 850mm x 150mm , XYZ.
Machine size 950mm x 1,250mm x 780mm (width (X) x length (Y) x height (Z)).
Linear rod rail size 16mm (RM1605) for Z axis.
Linear rod rail size 20mm (RM2005 / 2010) for X,Y axis.
Use standard ball screw support BK/BF12 , FK/FF15.
Aluminum frame use aluminum alloy 5083 10mm & 12mm & 15mm.
Design using metric unit (mm).
iD2CNC-SP Machine v.1.0 Specification (85cm x 125cm x 15cm , XYZ) ::
Machine working area 850mm x 1250mm x 150mm , XYZ.
Machine size 1,150mm x 1,650mm x 780mm (width (X) x length (Y) x height (Z)).
Linear rod rail size 16mm (RM1605) for Z axis.
Linear rod rail size 20mm (RM2005 / 2010) for X,Y axis.
Use standard ball screw support BK/BF12 , FK/FF15.
Aluminum frame use aluminum alloy 5083 10mm & 12mm & 15mm.
Design using metric unit (mm).

iD2
20-05-2016, 04:26 AM
Start assembly Y axis (Base)
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All aluminum was cut by cnc water jet.

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iD2
20-05-2016, 04:29 AM
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iD2
24-05-2016, 12:13 PM
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iD2
24-05-2016, 12:14 PM
Frame & X axis assembly ::
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Nr1madman
24-05-2016, 05:22 PM
Nice looking machine! What are you planning to cut with it? /Madman

iD2
25-05-2016, 04:29 AM
Nice looking machine! What are you planning to cut with it? /Madman

Thank you , this machine use for cut wood , acrylic , pvc , aluminum sheet.

iD2
25-05-2016, 04:31 AM
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Nr1madman
25-05-2016, 08:27 AM
It looks good! I have not built my own router yet, still planning ;) So you have alot more experience thanks me, but have you tried to cut aluminium with this design? From what Ive read the tall thin gantry uprights are more suitable for wood and plastic? Best of luck to you!

iD2
25-05-2016, 09:04 AM
Z Axis assembly ::
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iD2
25-05-2016, 09:05 AM
It looks good! I have not built my own router yet, still planning ;) So you have alot more experience thanks me, but have you tried to cut aluminium with this design? From what Ive read the tall thin gantry uprights are more suitable for wood and plastic? Best of luck to you!


The machine was finished build but still not finished update detail at this forum


For test cut aluminum , yeah i already test cut it after finished build and it can cut aluminum but with this design it not good for metal work or aluminum work.



https://youtu.be/bUobdvFm9a8

lucan07
25-05-2016, 09:27 AM
Amazing how someone videoing a machine test completely omits the machine, could have been any machine and not necessarily a very good one in video, nothing suggests that this same machine, or that it is stable, could be the gantry swings like a pendulum so you don't want to show it even long shots take care not to show enough of machine to identify it.

iD2
25-05-2016, 09:46 AM
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iD2
25-05-2016, 09:46 AM
Complete build ::
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iD2
25-05-2016, 01:13 PM
Amazing how someone videoing a machine test completely omits the machine, could have been any machine and not necessarily a very good one in video, nothing suggests that this same machine, or that it is stable, could be the gantry swings like a pendulum so you don't want to show it even long shots take care not to show enough of machine to identify it.

:D , Sorry for not do video review machine first and it not swings but it vibrate.

Clive S
25-05-2016, 06:17 PM
iD2 What are the yellow bits for on the back of the motors? if they have any weight they will certainly compromise the machine with the extra inertia.

iD2
26-05-2016, 11:26 AM
iD2 What are the yellow bits for on the back of the motors? if they have any weight they will certainly compromise the machine with the extra inertia.

That was dampers , it come with stepper motor.Dampers

A_Camera
27-05-2016, 10:15 AM
That was dampers , it come with stepper motor.
Looks cool. Practical if you need to manually move an axis. Just don't rotate too fast because the motors work as generators as well, and will feed back currents the wrong way. Depending on your stepper driver, it may cause harm if you rotate the dial too fast.

Do you really feel the need/use of dampers? Have you tried with/without? OK, it came with the machine, so no reason not to have them, but I am curious if they are actually doing anything useful.

JAZZCNC
27-05-2016, 02:15 PM
That was dampers , it come with stepper motor.Dampers

I've not read your thread bit if you have bought a complete machine and it came fitted with those dampers on then it suggests your drives are not the best and affected by resonance.?
Back in stone age it was common Hack to get around resonance crippling performance. It's not a Good thing.!!

If not and the drives are of decent quality with Mid mad resonance damping capabiltys then remove them because they will be affecting performance.

lucan07
27-05-2016, 03:19 PM
A quick scan of the thread points out he's actually trying to sell the plans and parts to build these machines, apparently they're the best thing since sliced bread, glad I bake my own.

routercnc
28-05-2016, 12:13 PM
Although the single X ballscrew, gantry side plates and overhanging Y axis (due to ballscrew position ) will reduce stiffness and performance my experiences of this type of design is that it is no problem for wood and plastic and will cut them all day long. If that is the intended use the I see no great issues on the mechanical side
Occasional aluminium plate is ok but for serious aluminium work this is not the machine to use and you need something stiffer in design including profile rails on most/all axes

iD2
27-07-2016, 03:58 AM
Thank you from all comment.




test cyclone dust collector & dust shoe


https://youtu.be/C9vseWIzqyk

iD2
27-07-2016, 07:52 PM
Just upgrade my dust shoe , change the guard from plastic sheet to rubber foam , it will better than plastic sheet like i did before. This's just an idea for dust shoe


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