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Gary
17-06-2016, 05:34 PM
As you know we have not sold machines or machine kits, because we felt what was available on the market was not to a standard that we could offer to our customers and because of this we have decided to make our own machines here in Poole, using the parts we sell and a lot of you are familiar with.
We have started with one machine, but made it quite modular so to let us expand the range as an when we can and this machine should site in a size bracket that should appeal to most people looking for what we woudl call a desktop sized machine.
The first machine we have called the 10060, i know its not a catchy name, but to be honest with you the name was not our biggest concern and may change when something more catchy comes to mind.

I have seen a number of companies put details of there machines up on this forum and watched as they were ripped to shreds by some of the more knowledgeable people on here, so if you have any suggestion, please feel free to post them and i will consider them.

This is an image of the machine as we are offering it at the moment, but this is the bare-bones option with a lot of other options available, like axis covers, hood, mist, cold-air cooling, flood, atc and so on.



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What is different to other companies is we will be offering a number of option, so if you want you can buy the complete kit or just an axis, and wen you can afford another axis you can buy that. or you can buy all of the parts individually.

Initially you will only see the mechanical parts available (Plus the motors and limit/home sensors), but as we progress we will also offer the electrical control cabinets as well.

We have been using the first prototype for a few months now finding all the issues and fixing them and we now use the latest version to make most of the parts.

Ok, so this is the specification.



Model
10060






Work areas X/Y/Z (mm)
600mm / 320mm* / 115mm (400mm without covers)


Bench clamping area W × D (mm)
590mm x 1000mm


Space under Gantry (mm)
124mm


Machine Dimensions WxLxH (mm)
745mmx 1060mm x 600mm


Linear rail types
Precision grade profiled rails on all axis (20mm on X and 15 on Y and Z)


Processing speed X/Y/Z
max. 800mm/min*


Repeat accuracy (mm)
± 0,01*


Drive motors
Stepper motors, Closed Loop Stepper motors or AC Servo motors


Drive elements X/Y/Z
C5 Ballscrews or C3 Ground.


Controller
CSMIO Motion Controller working With Mach3 or Planet CNC or Eding CNC.


Weight (kg)
approx. 200 KG


Software Needed
Mach 3/4, PlanetCNC or Eding CNC


* Depending on options selected

Options


Mist system or cold air gun options.
Selection of spindle motors including ATC, Air cooled spindles and 80mm round.
Tool height sensor
Servo or stepper motor systems.
C5 ballscrew as standard with options of C3.
T-slot table for easy of clamping of workpieces.
Vacuum bed.
Concertina bellows for added protection.
Available with or without hood.



I know a lot of people like a long Z axis but we have decided to go for something that gives you about 115mm to keep the rigidity to the best we can, and i would also point out that over the months that we have used it, we have never needed anything more.

The X axis has two ballscrews (R1610) and 20mm profiled rails, the Y axis has a single ballscrew and 15mm profiled rails and the Z axis has R1404 ballscrew and 15mm profiled rails.
all of the ballscrews are C5 and the profiled rails are precision class. We also have concertina bellow covers for the Y and Z axis and are working on a cover system for X axis, but this axis is already quite protected because all of the linear motion parts are under the machine.

To make way for us manufacturing these here, we are going to need to remove some products that we currently sell from our range and you will see these on our website on sale at the moment with up to 50% discount.

One of the products that we are removing that may effect people here is our C7 range of ballscrews and in the future will only be stocking C5 or C3 ground up to 25mm diameter.

I have a lot of other images, so if you want to know anything i can post images for people to rip the shit out of it (Only Joking, be nice Jazz)

JAZZCNC
17-06-2016, 07:46 PM
( be nice Jazz)

Don't know what you mean.! :whistle: . . . Need to see more before passing comment but looks ok so far. BUT then we need to know the all important £££££.:greedy_dollars:

dodgygeeza
17-06-2016, 07:52 PM
Price is on their site.

magicniner
17-06-2016, 09:43 PM
Don't know what you mean.! :whistle: . . . Need to see more before passing comment but looks ok so far. BUT then we need to know the all important £££££.:greedy_dollars:

£4.5k for the full kit, I don't dabble in this market so I've no idea of pricing?

P.S. Nice to know you get a Tree! I'd rather have a Hawthorn Tree than a Gan Tree though! ;-)

JAZZCNC
17-06-2016, 09:46 PM
Price is on their site.

So is that THEIR site or OUR Site.!!

magicniner
17-06-2016, 09:57 PM
So is that THEIR site or OUR Site.!!

Ours now apparently :whistle:

Gary
17-06-2016, 10:14 PM
£4.5k for the full kit, I don't dabble in this market so I've no idea of pricing?

P.S. Nice to know you get a Tree! I'd rather have a Hawthorn Tree than a Gan Tree though! ;-)

That be my dyslexia kicking in after a few beers.

JAZZCNC
17-06-2016, 10:14 PM
£4.5k for the full kit, I don't dabble in this market so I've no idea of pricing?

Well it's seems lot of money for self assembly KIT that still requires belts, motors, drives etc but got say it's very well spec'd and on first inspection looks capable machine. I see things that wouldn't consider ideal but nothing too serious. For first attempt then Gary and lads look to have done a good job. .:applause:

Gary
17-06-2016, 10:41 PM
I knew price would be the first thing that same up, but with all things they can be refined. The issue is setting the price right when there is not a lot on the market to the same specifications. We have not skimped on anything and all the linear motion parts are high end to get the specifications we wanted to achieve.

Gary
17-06-2016, 10:46 PM
Jazz, if you see something that is not ideal point it out.
I want to know so if it is possible we can change things.

Boyan Silyavski
23-08-2016, 09:18 PM
I have missed that. Great looking machine. I have designed something similar and i know price could not be cheaper, having in mind aluminum, machining, parts and so. I am thinking - make it more expensive but offer it turn key. This is obviously a production machine, then people will have money but no time to fiddle.

Out of curiosity, how is it going? Any interest so far?

Gary
24-08-2016, 12:10 PM
Its going ok, had a bit of interest and sold a few, but as i expected every one is slightly different.
We are not aiming at the lower end of the market, infact it makes no sense to, these as a turn key, will be in the £7-£10K range depending on the options.
You will notice that all of the parts we use are higher end, like precision grade profiled rails, C5 or C3 ground screws, servos and all branded switches, relays and safety systems, and as a business we are not going to compromise on anything, because it will end up coming back and biting our asses.
This is a machine we are building at the moment.
We are also only going to be using enclosed cable chains to stop metal swarf getting in and damaging the cables.
This machine also has a cold air gun and timed lubrication for cutting.

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magicniner
24-08-2016, 05:20 PM
That looks very nice, I particularly like the huge slabs of metal standing up at either side, "Monolithic" I think, is the correct description ;-)
You must have different FEA software than all the Johnnies that seem to think 10mm is plenty ;-)
Regards,
Nick

Gary
25-08-2016, 05:31 PM
thanks Nick.