Tool Height Setting Probe - Mach3 - solution

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    Takes a lot more for me to take offense ..... anyway ... non taken!

    Tried it, and it works perfectly.. Just what I was after .

    Gerrys screenset is very good, looks nicer than the original, the functions on it are very impressive, only thing that niggles me is that it runs in a window and not full screen on my 1280 x 1024 monitor but I will get used to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiltonSteve View Post
    Takes a lot more for me to take offense ..... anyway ... non taken!
    Ok I'll try harder next time. .

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    Quote Originally Posted by HiltonSteve View Post
    Still not bothered with the homing switch's and I have got the auto tool length setting working just fine without them, I will be putting them on at some time soon though. Set up and tested my soft limits and they should give me enough protection at this stage.
    If you don't have Home switches, just Ref the Z at the top of travel. This will allow the macros to keep from crashing the Z axis into the top of travel if you enter some settings that won't work. In order to use the toolchange position, park position, and tool change auto zero, you need a repeatable home position. Switches make everything easier.


    Quote Originally Posted by HiltonSteve View Post

    Quick question - In the Auto Zero settings, can I set the tool using my height probe on the bed of the machine, put the height of the probe into the plate thickness box (41mm in my case) and then put the distance from the bed to the top of the job (Z0) in the material offset. This is more or less the same method that I have used on larger CNC machines in the past, only difference is the G54 Z offset is not used and the figure in the material offset box is used in its place. The simple auto zero button seems to achieve this but not played enough yet to see if the material offset workaround will work or not.

    Theory behind this is quite simple, if i tell the machine how far the top of the work is from the bed by measuring it then the machine only needs to know where the tool is in relation to the bed. For a lot of my jobs I tend to be cutting rough sawn hardwoods which first need facing to give me a flat surface to work on and I usually set my z0 lower than the top surface as it is so uneven. This means setting zero on the top is no good to me.
    The short answer is yes. The G54 ofset is still used, bbut the zero position is offset by the Material Offset amount.

    I use the material offset so that I don't need to worry about the actual thickness when I program my parts. I just program to cut .75" deep, and it doesn't matter if the part is .78 or .68, it always cuts right to the bottom. I zero to the spoilboard and use a material offset of .75".

    Of course, if doing V-Carving you need to zero to the top, but if you're just cutting out parts, the material offset can make things much easier.

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    Just about to make up some plates for my tool height setting. I am using a mill and remain nervous about the programme (2010) dropping my tooling onto a solid plate. Is it best practise to laminate either the fixed and/or movable plates to give some "sprung" resilience at touchoff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leadhead View Post
    Just about to make up some plates for my tool height setting. I am using a mill and remain nervous about the programme (2010) dropping my tooling onto a solid plate. Is it best practise to laminate either the fixed and/or movable plates to give some "sprung" resilience at touchoff?
    Don't worry about it just keep the touch speed sensible and you won't have a problem. Think I have mine set to 300mm/min initial touch then 50mm/min for final touch.

    Always best when first setup to place something soft under plate for testing. Ie sponge then after that always touch probe to earth and check light comes on before each use.!. . . . After that you won't have any trouble I use mine everyday with tool direct to aluminium with no plate used at all (Ie zero thickness for plate) just a wire touching material and doesn't even mark the material.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Always best when first setup to place something soft under plate for testing. Ie sponge
    Thanks Jazz, another new product for me to sell "Touch Plate Testing Sponge"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bazzer View Post
    Thanks Jazz, another new product for me to sell "Touch Plate Testing Sponge"
    Actually not a bad idea that Stick some PCB to that hard foam you have Si and would work treat.!!

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    It's ok for testing, but I tried it with very firm foam and it must have flexed slightly on touch off giving a bad result.
    Still u live and learn...well hopefully live to learn

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