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New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
Hi guys,
Dave here. I'm designing a new machine for the office in the hopes of carving precision rifle stocks (4 axis) and whatever else is required from hardwood and aluminium. :)
The build is already underway and frame currently ready to be painted.
Details of the build
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Linear bearings: SBR20 fully supported rails - X:1300mm - Y:1000mm - Z:450mm
Ball screws: RM2005 Chinese - X:1350mm - Y:1050mm - Z:500mm
Steppers: Nema23 - 23HS45-4204S
Drivers: M542H
PSU: 48V 600w DC
Frame/Chassis: 65x65x3mm box steel
X axis chassis: 75x75x4mm box steel
Gantry cross beam: 200x100x5mm box steel
Gantry supports: 300x125x10mm steel angle
Z axis supports: 200x480x10mm steel plate
Contrary to most builds on here I do not have a CAD diagram to show as the build is a running design at present. I have very little CAD skills unlike my wife, who regularly makes designs in Solidworks.
Here's some pics of the current build:
original design
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Adjustible feet
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Front on view - all level within ~1mm
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Side view
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Z axis setup.
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Gantry side on.
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Anyway, thought i'd share guys. let me know what you think. :)
- Dave.
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
Looking good so far Dave.
Any reason for the 2005 ballscrews? The 1605/1610 are more popular because they have lower inertia which helps with the acceleration and deceleration, especially on the modest 48V you are using.
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
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routercnc
Looking good so far Dave.
Any reason for the 2005 ballscrews? The 1605/1610 are more popular because they have lower inertia which helps with the acceleration and deceleration, especially on the modest 48V you are using.
I havent purchased the PSU yet. so may go larger. the motors claim to have a max voltage of 48v. i can get a 60V no troubles but am not sure of the impact that would have on the steppers. As far as the RM2005's goes, i was aiming for a rigid setup for cutting aluminium and didnt want any wobble from ball screws. Feed rate isnt that critical for me.
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
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Slixxor
I havent purchased the PSU yet. so may go larger. the motors claim to have a max voltage of 48v. i can get a 60V no troubles but am not sure of the impact that would have on the steppers. As far as the RM2005's goes, i was aiming for a rigid setup for cutting aluminium and didnt want any wobble from ball screws. Feed rate isnt that critical for me.
I wouldn't be worried about the steppers but the drives in your spec you have said that you are using these M542H If I am not mistaken the max voltage they will handle is 50V so 48V would be too high for them. AM882 drives would be a better choice running at about 68-70 V.
If you want a decent machine you have to have decent electronics.
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
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Clive S
I wouldn't be worried about the steppers but the drives in your spec you have said that you are using these M542H If I am not mistaken the max voltage they will handle is 50V so 48V would be too high for them. AM882 drives would be a better choice running at about 68-70 V.
If you want a decent machine you have to have decent electronics.
Ok, it's now being considered. :) havent bought the drivers yet either. you are right indeed, my voltage restriction was the M542H. price is only AU $20 more per driver.
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
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Slixxor
Ok, it's now being considered. :) havent bought the drivers yet either. you are right indeed, my voltage restriction was the M542H. price is only AU $20 more per driver.
Ok then if you have not bought the motors either then try and find 8 wire so they can be connected in parallel and get the lowest inductance motors you can find these are proved and tested by many over here :- http://cnc4you.co.uk/resources/Stepp...1B%203.1Nm.pdf.
Good luck with the build.
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
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Originally Posted by
Clive S
Ok then if you have not bought the motors either then try and find 8 wire so they can be connected in parallel and get the lowest inductance motors you can find these are proved and tested by many over here :-
http://cnc4you.co.uk/resources/Stepp...1B%203.1Nm.pdf.
Good luck with the build.
I have the motors already and all mounting hardware. saving the electronics for last. The AM882's are in the price range. I am running dual ballscrews on the X Axis. so additonal cost. but oh well :)
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
You can run both X axis screws with one motor and belt connecting them,it's common practice with the guys on the forum.
Good luck
Mike
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mekanik
You can run both X axis screws with one motor and belt connecting them,it's common practice with the guys on the forum.
Good luck
Mike
I have noticed that. but whats the go with custom belts? Obviously each machine will differ in length required. Do you simply ask for a particular length?
Re: New build - Steel - 3 Axis initially then conversion to 4 axis.
You can get custom belts but they are more expensive, but you have a lot of leeway length wise as you will have adjustment on the motor and your tension/routing belt layout. there was a post on the forum a while ago showing a belt routing setup to address this issue.
Regards
Mike