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    I couldn't help but notice recently some small PCs on windows 10 that could be ideal for new builds, all in one machines or integrated panels. Not to speak of upgrading the big old boxes that collect dust around:


    HIGOLE F2 Quad-core Mini PC 92euo

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    HIGOLE GOLE10 Mini PC 222283703
    Intel Atom X5-Z8350 1.44 - 1.92GHz Support for Windows 10 OS BT 4.0 143euro

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    HIGOLE GOLE1 Plus Mini PC 208089501 160euro

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    NEW BOXED - RM Minitablet 100 (1RT-540) Intel Atom, 10.1" touchscreen, Windows 7
    75euro in Uk ebay number 282617812544


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    All is in no particular order but here is my favourite and the most powerfull one. i woudnt mind that for a tablet/laptop, though i have much better i5 tablet which i bought 2-3 years ago, but for the money and weight and Windows now this could be the best one for 2017...

    4/64GB 10.1'' Windows 10 Android 5.1 Chuwi Hi10 PC Quad Core Tablet HDMI , full HD, IPS, etc Around 170 euros with keyboard /sold separately/. No LAN connectivity but that could easily be cured if you have a nice DHCP enabled router and use it instead to connect to the machine


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    At this point in time I wouldn't pay you out in brass washers for any Windows 10 PC.
    If you will not be swayed by logic or experience simply pick the idea you
    like best, but ask yourself why you sought advice in the first place and,
    for a simple life, perhaps consider not doing so in future

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    At this point in time I wouldn't pay you out in brass washers for any Windows 10 PC.
    Because of the nasty updates i assume? But anything else is very stable. This is the most stable system up to date. I hate the updates too.
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    I bought a 150 Linx 1010 tablet a few months ago that came with Win 10 Pro, and I can't fault the tablet or Win10. One thing I'd found previously with cheap tablets, was the screens were rubbish, but this one is excellent for the money. I bought it for being used outside at events, hence not wanting to spend any more than I had to, and it's perfectly useable in all but the brightest of daylight.
    I'm sure you could get something with as good a screen cheaper, but this model had already been tested by someone I know.

    Since then I had to buy a new main laptop, and specced Win 10 pro. I find it just works, and is far more usable than previous incarnations of windows. As I read elsewhere, if you try using it like how you used previous versions, then you'll get frustrated. Spend the time learning how to use it how it's meant to be used, and it's far better.

    With 10 Pro, you get the option to pause updates, but I've found no need to use it. Although I maybe should of done last month when it decided to chew through 1gb of mobile data during an event as it decided to download a MSSQL service pack, but it was smart enough not to install it as the database was in use.
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    Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    I find it just works, and is far more usable than previous incarnations of windows.
    I find Windows 7 Ultimate perfectly usable, given that my computing requirements are based around 3rd party modelling, CAD/CAM and CNC software how would Windows 10 improve my user experience?
    If you will not be swayed by logic or experience simply pick the idea you
    like best, but ask yourself why you sought advice in the first place and,
    for a simple life, perhaps consider not doing so in future

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    I find Windows 7 Ultimate perfectly usable, given that my computing requirements are based around 3rd party modelling, CAD/CAM and CNC software how would Windows 10 improve my user experience?
    If what you've got works, then there isn't any reason to upgrade. Only reason I finally went to 10, was because my old Win 7 pro Dell finally died. I won't deny my first experience of 10 was not good, but now I've used it on some decent hardware, I now prefer it.

    I find it's the subtle things like to launch a program on the desktop, just click the search box, and start typing the name. It remembers what program you normally launch that starts with that letter, and if that's what you want you just need to type one letter, hit enter, and the program gets opened. Win 7 you had to either double click a shortcut, dig through the start menu, or wait for the search to find what you want.
    I no longer have a task bar full of icons, or a desktop cluttered with shortcuts.

    Then in the file explorer, there's a quick access list of folders that you regularly access. In 7, I had to edit my favourites list to add/remove regularly used folders. The quick access list in 10 automatically adds any folder you've opened a more than a couple times recently and bumps of any you've not accessed recently.

    The best way I can think to describe it overall, is you had to make 7 work for you, whereas 10 adapts to how you work, provided you let it.

    One thing to be aware of is how 10 works varies depending on what it's being run on, and how it's been configured.
    My tablet can be set to desktop or tablet mode. Tablet mode forces most windows to fullscreen, removes the taskbar, and lets you swipe between apps. Desktop mode lets you resize windows, and have multiple windows visible, and adds the taskbar but it means you need an accurate touchscreen (or connect a mouse). Start button opens a start screen similar to 8. Swiping from the right edge opens a quick setting window.

    On the laptop, it's got a very similar feel to 7. Start opens a conventional menu like you get in 7 and earlier, with an 8 style box tacked on the side (MS have to peddle their app store somehow!). Biggest problem is usually finding the right settings page, but search is your friend there.
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    Microsoft have rendered the Desktop redundant so you now have a full window of unusable space?
    What a waste ;-)
    If you will not be swayed by logic or experience simply pick the idea you
    like best, but ask yourself why you sought advice in the first place and,
    for a simple life, perhaps consider not doing so in future

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Microsoft have rendered the Desktop redundant so you now have a full window of unusable space?
    What a waste ;-)
    it means I don't have to keep showing the desktop to find another shortcut.
    Plus I get to look at pictures which aren't covered in shortcuts ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    Plus I get to look at pictures which aren't covered in shortcuts ;-)
    Only if you show the desktop though :D

    I do get that's just different, no worse and no better from an ergonomic point of view but it's Microsoft's new revenue stream model plans that I worry about and how that's going to work out down the line, they are desperate to move to annual licences for as much of their product range as possible and I want nothing to do with any of that.
    If you will not be swayed by logic or experience simply pick the idea you
    like best, but ask yourself why you sought advice in the first place and,
    for a simple life, perhaps consider not doing so in future

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    What worries me about W10 is performance. I'm not talking about general speed - when things are working normally, I see no difference from W7 - but after some recent updates, my garage PC based on a new motherboard with AMD CPU installed about a year ago has been running like a dog - a three-legged dog. Some of the system processes including desktop manager can take up to 50% of the CPU, and response is so slow that it even drops the connection to the CSMIO motion controller from time to time. Last night I was giving a talk and demo of my 3D printer to a local society and the printer started running very slowly as well. Looked like the laptop was not sending gcode fast enough to the printer every so often. I couldn't chase the issue as I was busy talking, but that was a combination of laptop and printer that's been working without a single issue for a few years now, including W10 for a year or so. The only change was W10 updates, as far as I know. Both machines have installed the latest Creator Update, which looks as if it might be part of the problem. I have a few other W10 PCs which seem to be working fine but aren't doing anything "real time" in the same way.

    Don't know is anyone else is seeing W10 problems but i'm starting to get a bit twitchy about it. Done a fair bit of googling around this issue and although there are generic performance complaints, I haven't found a fix for my problem yet. Bit of an issue as my router is built around the CSMIO so Linux is not an option. Upgrade to W7? Is Microsoft on a "Well, our compulsory updates might make your hardware obsolete" strategy?

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