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  1. #181
    Hi Geoff,

    Pleased the build log is helping :)

    I used MS Visio 2016 to create the diagram - I tried a wide range of CAD and electronic design softwares, but in the end Visio was just easier to use and create a colour coded diagram that made sense in my head. It took a long time to get it all down, but really helped organise my thoughts and work out a load of problems on paper first. I've attached the Visio file if you want to see how its done.

    Yeah the cap holders were a bit of a "d'oh!" moment - the 3D printer did a great job with those and a number of other little bits around the machine towards the end - I love the cable tidies and the proximty sensor mounts. Unfortunately with house rennovations the poor thing is currently sitting under a mountain of dust.... The cap lids sound like a great idea though - far tidyer than my hot-glue blobs!

    Looking forward to seeing your progress photos! :)

    Andy

    AndyUK Circuit Diagram.zip

  2. #182
    Finally got around to trying my first inlay with this machine. Tried to challenge it by using a series of line widths, 0.5mm up to 3mm. Classic walnut and maple. 70x70mm square.

    Used a 30 degree V bit, 2mm inlay depth, 1mm glue void depth, 1mm air gap above.

    Plug and base (are there real names for these?) - Ran the cut twice on each to clear up some fuzzy bits - suspect my feeds and speeds arn't quite right, but I was being conservative.
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    Glue time.... used some pretty standard PVA, that might come back to bite me but seems to be working.
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    Trimmed the excess slowly and gently... reveal time!
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    Some sanding through the grits, add oil... et voilą.
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    Not perfect; looks like theres some reaction going on at the interface between the two woods, and I think there was an imperfection in the maple or the plug cutting that caused that slight discontinuity, but overall quite pleased for a first attempt.

  3. #183
    Looks good Andy, nice feeling isn't it when you see the fruits of your labour produce stuff like this. Well done..
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  5. #184
    If my first effort (on the ToDo list behind a few more urgent tasks) looks that good I shall be happy. What's next?

    Kit
    An optimist says the glass is half full, a pessimist says the glass is half empty, an engineer says you're using the wrong sized glass.

  6. #185
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitwn View Post
    What's next?
    Well... I once said this about my wooden control box:

    Quote Originally Posted by AndyUK View Post
    First thing was to make a quick and temporary control box...
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    Turned out temporary is over a year! I've also got a much better idea about the buttons I wanted, so popped a few more on there.

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    Also coming up with a few ideas for design modifications. I'm considering adopting the two plates idea on the X axis to make the gantry adjustment more independent from the ballscrew and linear rails. It will also add a little height to the gantry; I'm finding that although the bed height is adjustable in theory, the work involved is quite prohibitive (its bloody heavy, you need to re-level everything, and then you're working at a non-optimal height). I've found that with tool length, my current setup can only manage a depth of about 50mm or so. With a small bed height adjustment and a few tweeks I should be able to get a bit more room. Then theres the lack of a tramming plate on the Z axis, and it would be nice to have my Z probe plate wired so that it travels around with the spindle and is always close to hand....

  7. #186
    Quote Originally Posted by AndyUK View Post
    Also coming up with a few ideas for design modifications. I'm considering adopting the two plates idea on the X axis to make the gantry adjustment more independent from the ballscrew and linear rails. It will also add a little height to the gantry; I'm finding that although the bed height is adjustable in theory, the work involved is quite prohibitive (its bloody heavy, you need to re-level everything, and then you're working at a non-optimal height). I've found that with tool length, my current setup can only manage a depth of about 50mm or so. With a small bed height adjustment and a few tweeks I should be able to get a bit more room. Then theres the lack of a tramming plate on the Z axis, and it would be nice to have my Z probe plate wired so that it travels around with the spindle and is always close to hand....
    Very interesting. Your wooden control box is much neater than my re-purposed PC case will ever be!

    I used two back plates for the gantry-mounted axis (Y on my machine) mainly out of practicality. It means that I can have the fixing screws for the linear bearings for the Y and Z axis overlapping, gave greater rigidity as I could only get 12mm plate and meant that I had some wiggle room to get the two axes exactly perpendicular after marking out bearing and rail mounting holes by hand and drilling them with an ordinary drill press. It also allows the whole Z axis assembly to be removed as a unit if required.

    The real trick is working out an accurate way to measure whether the two axes ( ie the rails) are really perpendicular or not that is separate from measurements of where the axis of the spindle is pointing. I haven't quite cracked that one yet. I know the axis of the spindle is accurately perpendicular to the Y axis but I have no way of knowing if the spindle itself and the Z axis movement are precisely parallel.

    Kit
    An optimist says the glass is half full, a pessimist says the glass is half empty, an engineer says you're using the wrong sized glass.

  8. #187
    If your axes are not perpendicular to each other you will have a parallelogram on your extreme points.
    Put a sharp tipped engraving bit (or sharp nail :)) in your collet and mark 4 dots on your table (use masking tape) at coordinates: 0,0; 0,MaxX; MaxY,MaxX and 0,MaxX, then measure DIAGONALS!!
    If there is a difference, you are out of squareness.

  9. #188
    Hi Kit
    On my build I wish I had given more thought to tramming adjustment as I now have to use metal shims to get everything right. Some sort of screw adjustment with a wedge may work. For tramming I could'nt get on with a single dial meter so bought this and I found it to be money well spent

    Kind Regards
    Michael

  10. #189
    Quote Originally Posted by ZASto View Post
    If your axes are not perpendicular to each other you will have a parallelogram on your extreme points.
    Put a sharp tipped engraving bit (or sharp nail :)) in your collet and mark 4 dots on your table (use masking tape) at coordinates: 0,0; 0,MaxX; MaxY,MaxX and 0,MaxX, then measure DIAGONALS!!
    If there is a difference, you are out of squareness.
    Thanks for that, but you are referring to aligning the X and Y axes. I think Andy was talking about the construction of his Z axis assembly. If not then my last post was a complete pile of crap!
    An optimist says the glass is half full, a pessimist says the glass is half empty, an engineer says you're using the wrong sized glass.

  11. #190
    Quote Originally Posted by MikeyC38 View Post
    Hi Kit
    On my build I wish I had given more thought to tramming adjustment as I now have to use metal shims to get everything right. Some sort of screw adjustment with a wedge may work. For tramming I could'nt get on with a single dial meter so bought this and I found it to be money well spent

    Kind Regards
    Michael
    My machine is covered in shims! At least I built it in a way that makes it possible to access the places I need them easily enough.

    I've seen the tool you linked to before but used a different method myself which was much less costly and used the Z axis DRO as a micrometer. This uses taught wires stretched between the long axis rails (X on my machine) to create the reference plane for aligning the gantry. This seems the best way to do it if your machine design allows it since these rails (once proven parallel) ARE the plane to which the other axes have to be parallel or perpendicular. Once that's all aligned then skimming the bed brings it into same plane and is the final job to be done. I wrote a thread about it last year and there's some updated stuff on my build log after I moved house and did it all again.

    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/13627...ith-Taut-Wires

    Kit
    An optimist says the glass is half full, a pessimist says the glass is half empty, an engineer says you're using the wrong sized glass.

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