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    What control are you going with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by battwell View Post
    What control are you going with?
    Centroid Acorn.

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    Hi,

    So Centroid ordered, looking at motor options. DMM do a Nema 42 replacement that has the correct shaft length and diameter which helps (roughly 50mm and 5/8th inch) - how are you dealing with pulleys and mounting options for your new motors?

    The DMM stuff is pricy too, so looking at options.

    Thanks

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    Had 2 different thoughts on pulleys. ( but that's all they are right now.)

    A) Make a shaft extension piece and stick original gear on the
    end. ( quick & simple, but depends on length)

    B) Make a new gear with an extended boss.
    ( seems a more engineered solution, but more expensive
    and a lot more time to machine from solid. Also I would
    have to make a single tooth form tool. Fortunately I already
    have a H/V rotary table with dividing plates)

    Sickeningly, this would be a great job for the 4/5 axis machine that I hope to end up with ,but isn't that always the way!


    Re mounting, my servo motors have a stupid raised boss on the front face. Going to turns this off in the lathe.

    X & Y axis should be OK with a flat face.

    Z AXIS mounting plate is part of main head casting and has a circular pocket machined in to accept the old SEM motor. ( no way I am stripping that lot off to mess with. Thinking of just making an exact size disk to drop into pocket to level out the surface. Then bolt motor straight on.
    The bolt pattern on new motors is a little larger, so just thought of rotation the bodies 45, marking and drilling a new PCD to suit.
    Last edited by swarf-boy; 03-01-2019 at 11:18 PM.

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    Chaz's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by swarf-boy View Post
    Had 2 different thoughts on pulleys. ( but that's all they are right now.)

    A) Make a shaft extension piece and stick original gear on the
    end. ( quick & simple, but depends on length)

    B) Make a new gear with an extended boss.
    ( seems a more engineered solution, but more expensive
    and a lot more time to machine from solid. Also I would
    have to make a single tooth form tool. Fortunately I already
    have a H/V rotary table with dividing plates)

    Sickeningly, this would be a great job for the 4/5 axis machine that I hope to end up with ,but isn't that always the way!


    Re mounting, my servo motors have a stupid raised boss on the front face. Going to turns this off in the lathe.

    X & Y axis should be OK with a flat face.

    Z AXIS mounting plate is part of main head casting and has a circular pocket machined in to accept the old SEM motor. ( no way I am stripping that lot off to mess with. Thinking of just making an exact size disk to drop into pocket to level out the surface. Then bolt motor straight on.
    The bolt pattern on new motors is a little larger, so just thought of rotation the bodies 45, marking and drilling a new PCD to suit.
    Thanks. I was thinking the same for Z (mine is off however) so if I Can get my spindle to fit in there, ill enlarge the holder. The problem with your approach might be the shaft length as the motor is moved away from the pulley location (might be OK, pending on what you do with the shafts).

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    Old DC SEM motor Top 2500rpm & 3.4NM torque
    and new AC Servo bellow it = 4.0NM torque.
    Also note difference in shaft length.

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    Z axis mounting bracket part of head casting

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    compared to motor front plate (note raised centre boss).

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    AC servo in place, showing boss interfering with fit.

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    Z axis pulley, above spindle ( looks a pig to change out)

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    original pulley as fitted to SEM motors.

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    pulley disassembled.

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    Spindle motor. although it shows Star / Delta link positions, there is no terminal block inside housing.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails CS Labs CSMIO IP_A connections.pdf   Click image for larger version. 

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    Last edited by swarf-boy; 04-01-2019 at 11:08 PM.

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    Thats the Z Pulley, not spindle pulley :-)

    How are you going to make up for the shorter shaft? Our machines look identical, apart from your slightly more powerful motors.

    My motor has wires that allow for different options, but this is with the outer metal shield removed, will take pics this weekend.
    Last edited by Chaz; 04-01-2019 at 07:11 PM.

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    That's what I meant.
    Its a real pain uploading photos on here, and I do it all on my phone. I had it all done, but clipped the back button and lost it all again (LoL), so did it again in a hurry.

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    Pic with the motor's outer cover removed. You can see the wires coming out allow for change in connection.

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    Lives in Ickenham, West London, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 14 Hours Ago Has been a member for 6-7 years. Has a total post count of 1,360. Received thanks 133 times, giving thanks to others 65 times.
    I'm trying to decide what motor to go for.

    80 Size - 19mm shaft but 35mm long.
    90 Size - 16mm shaft, same length.

    Both those have near identical specs.

    110 Size is almost a direct replacement but the shaft is 19mm and longer which is I think is ideal. This is for a 1.5 KW setup, around $100 per setup more expensive (not much of a concern).

    Which would you go for?

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