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  1. #31
    So, anybody got a good source for proximity sensors?
    As i have understood, im in the market for the inductive kind. 4 mm sensing distance would do it and NPN/PNP should not matter with the Csmio IP-M. Emergency switch, some resistors and a main switch is also on the shopping list right now...
    Last edited by JW1977; 05-09-2019 at 08:08 AM.

  2. #32
    it depends on the budget your working to

    if its a hobby machine then try amazon or ebay etc
    buy 1 to check the quality then order the others you need

    for a business machine you use to make a living
    look at industrial suppliers like RS Components , Farnell or Rapidonline
    for original proximity sensors not the cheep clones found else ware online

    you will pay more but they will be to the published specification
    example
    https://uk.farnell.com/multicomp/mcp...imity%20sensor

    John

    PS
    after looking at your location

    https://se.farnell.com/

    https://se.farnell.com/multicomp/mcp...weden%2Fsearch
    Last edited by john swift; 05-09-2019 at 04:57 PM. Reason: add example link to https://se.farnell.com/

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  4. #33
    Don't waste money buying the expensive switches Just buy the cheap Chinese switches off ebay.

    I've fitted 100's and probably had about 3 in total that was faulty out of the bag. I've had about 5 fail in use over a 10yr+ period all on different machines.
    The accuracy is more than good enough for any Router or DIY Milling machine.

    The IP/M doesn't care which you use but I always fit NPN switches.

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  6. #34
    Quote Originally Posted by JW1977 View Post
    So, anybody got a good source for proximity sensors?
    As i have understood, im in the market for the inductive kind. 4 mm sensing distance would do it and NPN/PNP should not matter with the Csmio IP-M. Emergency switch, some resistors and a main switch is also on the shopping list right now...
    Why the resistors.? You don't need any for the IP/M

  7. #35
    Maybe you got confused with all the chatter of 10k internal resistors, pull-up resistors and so on. You paid good money for a quality controller and therefore the prox sensors just plug straight in !

    I think I used resistors on the 12V front panel LEDs to run off 24V but that depends on how, or if , you want indicator lights for status and so on. For example they can also be mains powered indicator lights.
    Building a CNC machine to make a better one since 2010 . . .
    MK1 (1st photo), MK2, MK3, MK4

  8. #36
    Sorry guys, fuses, not resistors! Theres a lot on my mind right now...
    However, havent got to it yet, collecting the final parts right now but, i read about one resistor in the driver manual.

    Remark:
    VCC is compatible with 5V or 24V;
    R(3~5K) must be connected to control signal terminal.

    If im not mistaken i think i read about it in in the Csmio manual also but they recommend a 2K resistor there!?
    Last edited by JW1977; 06-09-2019 at 07:33 AM.

  9. #37
    Couple of odd comments:

    IP/M is very happy with direct connection of prox switches running on 24V. Works well.

    IP/M drives the usual stepper drivers directly without needing any resistors. Use differential connection if your drivers support this - better noise resistance.

    Unlike Jazz, I've not been too lucky with prox switches from eBay. I bought a box of ten. One was the wrong type (unbelievable! Two-wire, quite obviously not the same as the rest of the 3-wire switches), one was faulty straight from the box, and one failed very shortly after fitting. However, the rest have been working fine for a couple of years now, and the whole box probably cost less than one "professional" quality switch. That's the difference between home building and commercial - commercial machine could not stand that level of quality, but it suits my pocket!

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  11. #38
    I too bought a box of 10 from China.

    The machine I have from MD had end-on axial sensing and I crushed a sensor whilst jogging (the machine, not me!), In my naivety I ordered a replacement from MD and it cost £17.50 (ouch, ouch,ouch). When I crushed that one, I ordered 10 from China and converted the sensing to bypass.Some have orange sensor ends and a grey cable and some have blue ends and a black cable. I have 9 of them left. They are all NO and 4mm.

    Cheers,

    Rob-T

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    I also have had about 30 from AliExpress with no duds with pnp and npn types.
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  13. #40
    My chicom mechanical switches are quite reliable, omron copies.

    They are not too accurate, and the mechanical assys are terrible, in terms of machinist parts.
    0.01-02 mm +/- in repeatability/accuracy is terrible.
    For my cnc lathe, industrial quality.

    But for routers, they are much more than good enough.

    (My lathe is for sub-micron or 1 micron repeatability.)

    Cheap 5$ optical limit switches provide about 2 microns accuracy, fairly easily.

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