Thread: Plasma/Router combo
Since I am going to spend some dosh building a good 1600 x 1000 bed for my dream wood cutting machine, I was wondering if it is feasable to look at having one bed for milling and plasma cutting.
*Design is a gantry type with Dewalt router.
One day when I am all grown up I might have more space and I can have 2 machines stading around. I will also have enough money then to pay for another bed ;)
Anyway, what are your thoughts?
Also, since I know just about zip about plasma cutting, and it seems "very useful for everything but I cant think of anything right at this moment", can anyone suggest a cutter/welder model out there that can be used on above said bed?
That is to cut up to 10mm steel/brass etc.-- if you can't be good, at least be good at it --
I think there are different and opposing requirements for a miller/router vs plasma machine.
Milling gantry is strong,stiff and heavy, and plasma gantry is light and nimble. This is driven by the tool forces which are high for the miller and virtually zero for the plasma. This makes the combo you suggest a bit of a compromise between the 2.
The miller is the primary focus and will be built with no compromise in terms of speed/strenght/rigidness.
If you then *have* the milling gantry, why not just use it even if it is overkill compared to what you need?
Is it not just a case of getting the cutting head around at the right speed?
Take florins' design for instance (http://www.mycncuk.com/forums/showth...ll=1#post13298) Why cant you use a cutter on this design?
Of course I know that you are going to burn the bed away, thats obvious, so you will have to swap it out if you are cutting metal.
BTW: love your machine florins-- if you can't be good, at least be good at it --
I'm thinking of doing something like this on my machine which is built for milling (see my build log) so it's quite heavy to say the least. I've not looked into plasma cutting much but I think routercnc is saying that you might not be able to get the router/mill to move fast enough for plasma cutting, since the gantry is so heavy?
Just had a quick look at feedrates and it looks like upto 3800mm/min could be required, but again I'm not sure...That should be achievable on a router with good motors etc, but maybe acceleration is going to be an issue?
The bed on my router is 18mm MDF, so not best suited for plasma cutting! However I've made the travel on the Z axis 400mm, which means I've got plenty of room to fix another bed say 350mm above the MDF one on a steel frame. I think this could be your best bet. Making it so you can raise the Y axis is also an option.
It's also just occured to me that 400mm is enough to bolt my big wood lathe to the router! So I could use it as a CNC mill/router/plasma cutter/lathe!
I was hoping to achieve 4500mm/min at least on my build, and with the router taken off the gantry it will help with the acceleration. If I could only achieve something like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6m0j7...eature=related it would be more than enough for the bits I would like to do.-- if you can't be good, at least be good at it --
Why not use 2 gantries? one bed, a heavy stiff gantry for milling and another light nimble gantry for cuttling.
One consideration would be choosing an X axis stepper that had the torque for routing and the speed for the plasma but you could always gear it and swap the sprockets over.
They're rated for high speeds, and cheap...
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