Thread: Clocking

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    Kai's Avatar
    Lives in Hull, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 28-04-2016 Has been a member for 6-7 years. Has a total post count of 72.
    I think most will pass this one over but please don't.
    I am really new to all this and have heard this many time but I just do not know really what it means. No I 'm not taking the mick I am that new to this cnc stuff.
    if there is a ref to this please point me to it and I will read it I am getting back into learning and really enjoying life again and this is a great place to get help I was told by the chap I got my machines from.

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    Sorry ... not a phrase I am familiar with. Unless it refers to using a DTI to 'clock' tolerances or distances. I do remember an instructor telling me to 'clock' the backlash of a mechanical joint to ensure it was within a given range. Hope that helps (but I am probably wrong).
    Tim G-C

    I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.

    (attrib. Voltaire but written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall "The Friends of Voltaire" 1906)

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    Kai's Avatar
    Lives in Hull, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 28-04-2016 Has been a member for 6-7 years. Has a total post count of 72.
    No I think you are on the same page as me.
    I only used the term as thats what the chap called it when he set up a job in a milling machine.
    I think it is the same as making sure the job is flat or as needed when starting a job or getting the lathe part right in the jaws.
    It's this process that I am looking for a how to and tips on and also what dials etc or gauges you need or what is recomended.
    As I said this is a whole new thing to me and just want to learn whats what

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    i2i's Avatar
    Lives in Cardiff, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 23-12-2016 Has been a member for 7-8 years. Has a total post count of 693. Received thanks 30 times, giving thanks to others 0 times.
    Hi Kai, clocking is what you think it is. A "Dial Test Indicator" (clock/dti) is an indicator that shows physical movent on a dial. We spoke about this on the weekend, but i'm sure you've forgotten most of what was said.
    The most common use on the mill would be, setting the vice up so that it's square to the x axis. You do this by clamping a parallel (or piece of flat metal) in the vice jaw and setting the clock to show the amount of movement along the face of the parallel when you move the x axis. You then adjust the position of the vice so that there is zero movement on the clock from end to end of the parallel.

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    i2i's Avatar
    Lives in Cardiff, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 23-12-2016 Has been a member for 7-8 years. Has a total post count of 693. Received thanks 30 times, giving thanks to others 0 times.
    ps. feel free to give me a bell if you're not sure about anything.

    Tom.

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    Or do you mean electronics? Clocking then means rattling a line up and down, usually between 0 and 5 volts, in the hope that something on the other end of it will understand and do something useful.

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    Kai's Avatar
    Lives in Hull, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 28-04-2016 Has been a member for 6-7 years. Has a total post count of 72.
    Thanks Tom I was not sure of your id on here lol.
    I do remember quite a bit of what we talked about, I just comes to me at differant times to when I need it lol
    I spoke to the tutor at college and he said we can use the machine ther to help make the base for the vice there if needed.
    I think I will need to call you because I can not remember how you told me the best way to make it was lol I know it had two dowl pins and a stop on the bed but after that I did sort of lose it. The drive back was a little tought the traffic getting out of cardiff was hell an hour and a half before we hit the motorway. But both machines will be up and running soon.

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    i2i's Avatar
    Lives in Cardiff, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 23-12-2016 Has been a member for 7-8 years. Has a total post count of 693. Received thanks 30 times, giving thanks to others 0 times.
    there was probably a match on, that's why the traffic was bad. Give me a ring anytime and i'll explain it for you.

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    Clocking: refers to the use of a Dial Test Indicator (also sometimes abbreviated to DTI, or referred to as a "clock" or "clock gauge", hence the term "clocking").

    For example, to "clock a vice" on a milling machine: set the vice up approximately with the T-slots on the machine table and *gently* tighten the nuts (not fully, you'll need it to move slightly). Lightly trap a parallel in the vice.
    Using a DTI / clock (or whatever you like to call it), set a zero on it with the DTI "finger" at one end of the parallel, then wind the table across so your gauge ends up at the other end (still with me?) and record the error. If required, GENTLY tap that end of the vice away from the DTI finger, by about half of the error (ie, if you have an error of 0.2mm, tap the vice until you get about 0.1mm reading).

    Repeat this process until you get minimum or zero error (if you get a zero error reading, make sure the finger is still in contact with the parallel).

    Your vice is then "clocked", ie it is aligned with the machine table, and you can now set up your workpiece in the vice.

    Yell if you're struggling with my explanation - it's a difficult subject to explain in words: it's far easier if you can get someone to show you to be honest.

    Hope that helps.

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    Kai's Avatar
    Lives in Hull, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 28-04-2016 Has been a member for 6-7 years. Has a total post count of 72.
    Yes that make sense to me thank you for that.
    All I have to do now is find a resonable good one for not a lot of money lol the story of my life at the moment.
    Any suggestions any one ? Will I be able to use the same DTI with the lathe I have as well?

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