Thread: Kress v trend

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    Very new to cnc and building my first m/c. I was wondering about which small router would be best. I thought between kress 1050 and trend t4ek which has the removable base and is currently 1/2 the price of the kress. I am mainly intrested in m/c wood and maybe a bit of light ally work. Any thoughts?

    bruce

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    This will be far better than any router:

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-2KW-WATE...item2c61c20419

    Get the 2.2kW as it takes ER20 collets which go up to 13mm which is good for 1/2" router cutters, compared to the 1.5kW spindle which only accepts up to 10mm.

    When I bought mine I was thinking of getting a Kress and I'm glad I didn't. These spindles are much more rigid and have lower runout which is very important if you want to cut aluminium.

    Also by the time you've added a set of collets on to the Kress it gets expensive.

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    I have to agree with Jonathan on this one. If you are going to go down the cnc route then go for a router/spindle motor that is designed for cnc work.

    Ian

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    Thanks for that guys. I had seen these but had not given it much thought before. Seems to make sense. Just youtubed it and was suprised how much quieter it is.
    2 questions. 258 inc delivery is that about right? And i take it that there are a few threads with various ideas on providing the water?

    I will post some pictures of my attempt in the build log section. Please have a cushion ready for when you ROFL:rofl:

    Thanks for your good advice.

    Bruce

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    Quote Originally Posted by motoxy View Post
    Just youtubed it and was suprised how much quieter it is.
    Was that my video :lol:, it's had a surprising number of views! They are much much quieter, but bear in mind the actual cutting often makes more noise.

    Quote Originally Posted by motoxy View Post
    2 questions. 258 inc delivery is that about right? And i take it that there are a few threads with various ideas on providing the water?
    Yes it is and yes there are threads about it. All you really need is a reasonably big (say 20L .. more the merrier) container of de-ionised water with anti-freeze or something to stop any algea growing. As long as the volume of water is big enough the cooling due to conduction/convection into the surrounding air is sufficient to keep it cool. There's no need to buy a fancy heat exchanger, colour the water green and put flashy lights on it :whistling:
    Plenty of options for pumps - the pond pumps on eBay for <20 are fine as long as you have the tank at a similar height to the Z-axis.

    This is the seller I got mine from:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-2KW-WATER-...item3a6468d61d

    Use the best offer and you will get it cheaper.

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    i got my pump on ebay for a fiver. its a whale caravn pump, 12v so you can run it from the computer psu aswell

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    Thanks Jonathan. I have put up build log but I still have to be moderated:whistling:. I may as well go and order one as i need to think about my z gantry next. Need to do it when the wife's not watching. She still thinks I am starting a nice little cheap hobby.

    Bruce

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngoodrich View Post
    i got my pump on ebay for a fiver. its a whale caravn pump, 12v so you can run it from the computer psu aswell
    I use, and suggested people use one of those, for quite a long time but mine died after several months. It turns out they are only rated for a 25% duty cycle (i.e. 15 mins on, 60min off) which implies it's going to break at some point if you run it constantly for the spindle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johngoodrich View Post
    i got my pump on ebay for a fiver. its a whale caravn pump, 12v so you can run it from the computer psu aswell
    You guys can be so adaptable. I will go searching for the 5 pump and then I can show the wife. She will think this is great.

    Jonathan - Flashy lights... now theres a thought

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonathan View Post
    which implies it's going to break at some point if you run it constantly for the spindle.
    Ouch!! Not good for a water cooled spindle. I would have thought that a submerged self cooling pump would probably be best. Or pond pump as you say.

    Bruce

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