Help needed identifying this 1300x2500 CnC Router Machine!

[shapebusters]

Yes that looks very much like the machine doesn't it. I noticed the weight is 1250Kg which i would say is more realistic than 750Kg. That's not overly heavy so should move it easy enough.

Good Luck.

Thank you for your help!
So you keep your opinion about the purchase relating to the quality of the machine? Any special precaution to check, or do prior to the "moving"?

[JAZZCNC]

So you keep your opinion about the purchase relating to the quality of the machine? Any special precaution to check, or do prior to the "moving"?

Yes it's just about what thought it would be for chinese built machine, not the best in the world but more than good enough for most small wood shops.
Nothing to add about moving the machine other than common sense lock every thing down.

Looking at the picture your machine as Hi-win rails which are decent quality so they shouldn't be wornout looking at the condition of the machine. Condition of Rack & pinion would be my main area to look at when you have it home. This will be the weak area on this machine either because of quality or poor maintenance and setup.
R&P wears very quickly if not setup correctly, often it's over tightened to eliminate backlash and this causes excess friction so wears the Rack. Or other way and not maintained and pinion is under engaged so wears tops of teeth away.!

Electronicly then can't say because it's like a box of Chocolates with Chinese machines "You never know what your going to get" but often they are one area they compromise to keep costs down.? Post pictures when you have it home and settled.

Shame your so far away Else I'd gladly come help you move it and get working.!!. . . . Thou it does like nice and Hot there so if you want to send me ticket for plane ride I may be tempted to a Bus mans holiday. .

[GEOFFREY]

How about a Bus mans holiday in sunny Lincolnshire Jazz - I could pay for the diesel. G.

[shapebusters]

Shame your so far away Else I'd gladly come help you move it and get working.!!. . . . Thou it does like nice and Hot there so if you want to send me ticket for plane ride I may be tempted to a Bus mans holiday. .

HAhaha! You are welcome... and it was you who remembered the idea! I can also ensure you that your Busman holiday would be very well spent! Maybe you could bring your family!


We will (and we will not!!!) expect to have difficulties or problems with the machine!

Thank you again, and best regards from Sintra (Azenhas do Mar) Portugal!

[JAZZCNC]

Thank you again, and best regards from Sintra (Azenhas do Mar) Portugal!

Looks a Beautiful beautiful place to live so pretty I'm tempted to buy my own Ticket thou you may find I'd I want to stay longer than few days, more like Few decades.!!

Geoffrey: If I wasn't so busy I'd come over in a shot but unfortunatly I'm upto my neck in work so even Sinta Portugal would be a pipe dream at the moment.
That said My daughter will soon be at Lincoln University so I'll be coming your way at some point so I'll may be drop you a line and call see you.?

[GEOFFREY]

You are right Jazz, our fens and cold weather cannot compete with what looks like paradise, but you will always be very wellcome if you do find yourself in the area (about 35 miles south of Lincoln) when your daughter is at university. Congratulations to your daughter for getting to university - she obviously gets her brains from her mother!!! G.

[shapebusters]

Hello!
After some work on building a heavy duty pallet, and some mechanical issues on the trailer brakes, i have everything ready to bring the CnC to its new home!

As soon as i have it near me, i will post pictures.

In the meantime maybe you all can give me your opinions:

Prob an ok machine if the price is right, certainly a good starting point for modifiying/improving.

In your opinion which may be the major cnc working limitations of the machine? For instance will it machine 3d wood parts?
What improvements would you give it, and how much do you think it will cost?

[JAZZCNC]

In your opinion which may be the major cnc working limitations of the machine? For instance will it machine 3d wood parts?
What improvements would you give it, and how much do you think it will cost?

Mechanicly There should be no limitations for the purpose it was designed for which would be mostly wood routing. It will easily handle 3D type work and anything in between. Without knowing the resolution the only area it may not perform so well in is fine engraving or detailed work.? This is due to using rack & pinion but I'd be very surprised if it couldn't do half decent job.

Does the machine come with it's own controller.? If it does this could be the grey area and how it handles large files that 3D work produce, it could also be an area where you struggle with post processing in CAM software. Or worse still it needs dedicated Cam software.!! If your new to CNC then post processing is where the CAM software formats the outputted G-code file to suit the Controller that runs your machine. In your case you may not know or the CAM have a post processor for that machine.

Often with older machines that have restrictive controllers or tied to dedicated software then it's easier to just retro fit with PC Software based controller like MAch3 or Linux Cnc.

Good luck with the move.

[shapebusters]

Mechanicly There should be no limitations for the purpose it was designed for which would be mostly wood routing. It will easily handle 3D type work and anything in between. Without knowing the resolution the only area it may not perform so well in is fine engraving or detailed work.? This is due to using rack & pinion but I'd be very surprised if it couldn't do half decent job.

Does the machine come with it's own controller.? If it does this could be the grey area and how it handles large files that 3D work produce, it could also be an area where you struggle with post processing in CAM software. Or worse still it needs dedicated Cam software.!! If your new to CNC then post processing is where the CAM software formats the outputted G-code file to suit the Controller that runs your machine. In your case you may not know or the CAM have a post processor for that machine.

Often with older machines that have restrictive controllers or tied to dedicated software then it's easier to just retro fit with PC Software based controller like MAch3 or Linux Cnc.

Good luck with the move.

Hello there!
Thank you for your quick reply.
Im not new to CNC, but the experience i have (that you can see part on my presentation post) is more related with the working and machining, and not so with the mechanics and machine construction.
I have worked for some years with a Gravograph IS8000XP (1.2mx0.6m), and a bigger OUPLAN cnc machine with 3mx2m. Both 2d and 3d works, using Rhinocam, and for some simple cuts the Gravograph software (really bad one...)
So thanks again for the advices and help, hopefully tomorrow i can place here at the end of the day a new post with photos of the machine!

Best regards from Portugal

[shapebusters]

Hello everyone!

Well as promised, here i am sharing the adventure on buying the Cnc .
Unlike what I had been told by the brother of the seller, the machine was in a basement , with 4 steps of depth and a very small door.
The good part was that the machine had little things that could be pointed to the seller, so that it lowered the price even more. Since he was not in Portugal (it's in Brazil ) i sended him by email the photos, showing that when the machine was storaged there, someone bented the frame of the machine. (Dont worry, using a digital level i checked the geometry of the machine , and everything was spotless!)

These findings allowed me to negotiate the machine for 1.750 GBP, and still bring a tool cart and some extra things. Brought the computer machine , manuals, cds , and more one thing or another.
I found the invoice and the machine was sold by a Spanish company in October 2007 , as shown in the plate that has the back .
After solved the transportation problem and how to make / pull the machine from the basement to the trailer, we brought it to its new home!
One of the first things i did was to remove the bented parts and straighten them.
Then I cleaned and lubricated the entire machine, checking tightness of bolts.

For tomorrow i will try to make it move and cut something. But i am very positive, because when dismantling some parts for the cleaning i found very little dirt and wood particles. The machine was used but very little time.
The Photographs of the controller unit, and command - rznc 0501 are missing, but inside there is a unit similar to this one,
I have some questions , especially regarding the 3kw spindle. Should i install new plastic tubes? In the picture you can see they are not clean, is it supposed to be?
Does anyone have a manual? Where am i supposed to connect the two plastic tubes?
I would like to hear your opinions about the machine, bring it on!
What would you improve/upgraded?

Best regards from Portugal!