Harrison M250

**Arthur Kingdon** · 29-05-2009

Hi,

I class myself as a jack of all trades and definitely a master of none. I flit between woodworking and metalworking and dabble in ornamental turning. I am keen on older machines and enjoy their restoration. However, I would like to bring myself rather more up to date and learn about CNC machining. I have a Harrison M250 CNC Trainer but haven't a clue as to where to start, despite the fact that I have a programming manual for it. Is their anyone out there who may have some experience of these lathes who can offer some guidance? I live in North Wiltshire and my workshop is always open for visitors.

**Arthur Kingdon** · 29-05-2009

Originally Posted by Kip

Hi Arthur :wave: < smiley has lost his bike.... Never seen that particular lathe so can't offer any help....does it accept G-code? The only Lathes I use regularly are my cheapo Chinese manual a Colchester Mascot and a Triumph.....the CNC is a Leadwell with a scary spindle....My code gets checked before being run through that as I'm a noobcake CNC lathe operator :D

Give us some pages from the manual......Most users of home cnc gear are using Mach or if they have 10 years free EMC2 (I'm gonna get slapped for that emc comment lol )

Hi Kip,

Yes it does accept G codes, M codes also.

The Harrison brochure lists: ISO codes, decimal point programming, radius programming, 250 blocks of memory (8K!), programming absolute and incremental, cassette programming or RS 232 interface etc.

The machine dates from 1985 so probably predates Mach?

The brochure also stressed the 'ease of use and simplicity with respect to programming'! Mmmm

I'll have to look into scanning a few pages and how to post them.

Thanks,

Arthur

**Ross77** · 29-05-2009

Hi Arthur
looks like a nice set up, Just about to learn how to use a manual lathe so no advice im afraid.

Originally Posted by Kip

I watch with interest as I feel like building one but always imagine the tool hitting the chuck :scaredycat:

Do CNC lathes not have limit swithes then? I planned to cnc my lathe at some point but not sure now

**irving2008** · 29-05-2009

Arthur,

I take it you have read the info here on Tony Griffiths site? Looks quite a nice beast...

**Arthur Kingdon** · 29-05-2009

Hi,

Yes thanks, I've seen the info on the Tony Griffiths site but it only covers the manual version of the M250. Mine is the manual/CNC Trainer that was used to supply colleges etc. I've been using it for a while in manual mode and the stepper motor on the cross slide does not interfere with such use. It's a good piece of kit and I'd really like to explore it more fully.

Arthur

**irving2008** · 29-05-2009

I had a quick google for any examples of use but nothing found, although lots of places to buy the manuals... but you have the programming guide already.

So get 'em scanned and I'm sure between Kip, myself and few others we can help you work it out!

**Arthur Kingdon** · 30-05-2009

Originally Posted by irving2008

I had a quick google for any examples of use but nothing found, although lots of places to buy the manuals... but you have the programming guide already.

So get 'em scanned and I'm sure between Kip, myself and few others we can help you work it out!

Hi,

The scanning is no problem but what is the best way to let you view the pages?

Thanks,

Arthur

**John S** · 31-05-2009

Arthur, not stuck my nose in before as I can't help out because many of these commercial controllers are special to the manufacturer and / or machine.
Silly things like hold the prgm key in until it boots then release.

Because it's a commercial control you could ask on the CNC machining page on Practical Machinist, there are some knowledgeable people there and few UK posters who may have had M250 experience.

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...hining-21.html

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**Arthur Kingdon** · 31-05-2009

Originally Posted by John S

Arthur, not stuck my nose in before as I can't help out because many of these commercial controllers are special to the manufacturer and / or machine.
Silly things like hold the prgm key in until it boots then release.

Because it's a commercial control you could ask on the CNC machining page on Practical Machinist, there are some knowledgeable people there and few UK posters who may have had M250 experience.

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb...hining-21.html

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Hi John,

Thanks for the input - the Harrison flyer states 'The CNC control has been specifically designed for this lathe and its training applications' so you are correct in suggesting it may be special. I'll post a question on the Practical Machinist site - I can't be the only person using one of these, surely?

john andrews · 15-08-2009

Hi Arthur, I am a new member but I would like some advice on my Harrison lathe so here goes perhaps you can help me: I have recently bought this machine but unfortunately its 3 phase and I would like to convert it back to single phase, can anyone advise where I can get the electric motor and also single phase pump. also although I have the manual on it can anyone recommend a good book which would give you more ideas on what its capabilities are.
Thank you - John Andrews.