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  1. #11
    I used to cut a lot of steel and aly section, started off with a bandsaw but moved on to the cut off saw, would definitely say the cut off saw. Bandsaw was very slow and the cuts were not as accurate as the cut off, just need to be aware that the cut off saw produces a lot of swarf and plenty of sparks if cutting steel although the blades with teeth produce less sparks than the grinding wheel type. Would also choose the Bosch brand over sealey any day. I have also used the Fury saw, a capable machine for the money although a bit 'light weight'. Dewalt also make good machines but are not cheap but then again my dewalt sliding mitre saw has been going for over 15 years without a problem.

    Al

  2. #12
    I like the Rage cutoff, I used mine to cut a lot of old type thick walled steel scaffold poles into 6' lengths, if I need a lot of cuts fast then out it comes, it would be nice to make a better base & vice arrangement for it. The Rage is not for Titanium or any but free-machining stainless though.
    The Rapidor Manchester power hacksaw does most of the cutting in my workshop, it's not fast but it runs unattended up the corner leaving me free for other work during cuts, it handles just about anything up to about 6" diameter and the blades last an unprecedented length of time, my last blade was over a year old when it's cuts slowed noticeably signalling time for replacement.
    The Sealey horizontal band saw fits between the two in terms of capabilities and doesn't get much use at the moment,

    - Nick

  3. #13
    Hi all,
    I intend to build my own cut off saw and now I'm searching for a good blade primarily for steel cutting. I am looking for a 355 mm dia. blade.

    I see that the Evolution steel blade has a new model at half the price. On the expensive one is written "made in japan". 100 vs. 50 EUR.
    The Bosch blade is 90 EUR reduced from 264 EUR on amazon.de

    I am confused about these price changes.. Could be that the "made in japan" blade will last twice as long as the cheaper one (probably chinese)? Is the bosch blade a better option? As I intend to occasionally cut other materials than steel, should I look for the evolution rage blade? Bosch says that their blade will not cut aluminium.

    Any thoughts are really appreciated.

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  4. #14
    intersting, I have just bought a band saw, but have a chop saw (albeit with abrasive discs) in the garage already. Reason for the change is I really dislike the sparks and nearly offensive noise level of a chop saw.

    It works a treat, but if I am going to be more regularly chopping stock up, I dont want to get lynched by the local neighbourhood watch witches. :D

    So I'm going to give the bandsaw a whirl and see how I like it.

    I'd be interested to know though if anyone has successfully fitted one of the steel blades (like above ^^^^) onto a chop saw that runs an abrasive disc currently?

  5. #15
    Quote Originally Posted by Dangle_kt View Post
    I'd be interested to know though if anyone has successfully fitted one of the steel blades (like above ^^^^) onto a chop saw that runs an abrasive disc currently?
    As far as I know the abrasive discs needs much higher RPM with lower torque. For a 355 mm steel blade you need 1400 RPM

  6. #16
    I had an Evolution Fury but didn't like it mainly on account of how dangerous these saws can be. And they need to have a good grip on the material, and mine was rubbish in that respect. So instead I bought a chinese made powered hacksaw. Yes, it is slow and rather noisy, but it cuts amazingly square and it is reliable and not dangerous. Typically a piece of alu 20mm thick and 80mm wide will take maybe 7 minutes or so. But at least the stress levels are under control:)

    Edward
    Last edited by Edward; 16-01-2017 at 04:09 PM.

  7. #17
    These saws are not more dangerous than an angle grinder or any other machinery . Provided you wear the proper protection. I wear face shield and ear protection.


    The difference between the blades is that the orange one is multi material blade, look tooth profile. I still have the original one and its been sharpened at least ~7 times already. It has ~5 more lives. The teeth that are in between the cutting teeth should be be lowered also after 3-4 sharpenings. I pay 12 euro and is done on a pro CNC sharpener, not diy.

    Bosch on other hand as CMT / Freud/ in woodworking are the best blades, especially the multi material ones. I would not doubt the Bosch blade.

    IMHO buy the cheapest, if they say its for that machine, then its a no brainer, half the price or not.

    I remember myself bragging about creepy chinese cutter 2 years ago. Now i use mainly chinese carbide cutters and i can assure you the quality now is 100% as brand micrograin carbide ones, if not even better in some cases, what i found in real life. Of course i look from whom i buy.
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  9. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Boyan Silyavski View Post
    These saws are not more dangerous than an angle grinder or any other machinery.
    +1
    Tools don't kill people, people kill people, sadly it's often themselves and unintentional ;-)
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  10. #19
    [QUOTE=Boyan Silyavski;87734
    IMHO buy the cheapest, if they say its for that machine, then its a no brainer, half the price or not.

    I remember myself bragging about creepy chinese cutter 2 years ago. Now i use mainly chinese carbide cutters and i can assure you the quality now is 100% as brand micrograin carbide ones, if not even better in some cases, what i found in real life. Of course i look from whom i buy.[/QUOTE]

    Hi Boyan, I cannot fully agree with you.
    There are a lot of different grades of micrograin carbide. You cannot say that a tool made of chinese carbide has the same quality as a Swiss or Japanese one. Even with the same carbide grain size and amount of cobalt used, the difference in manufacturing techniques will give different results of the properties of the resulting material.

    I bet that your Rage blade is the "made in japan" version

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    I have as makita abrasive cut-off saw and have never been able to get a 90 degree cut with it. I bought the unit second hand.

    Lets say I'm cutting 40x40 box section. When it reaches 10mm from the bottom it seems to veer off to one side.

    If i force it down quite hard that helps to keep it straight. Personally I was quite disappointed, I'm not sure if its faulty or damaged.

    Looking for an alternative saw now myself. I expect the cold cut versions wont have that flex in the blade.

    edit: having read the thread below, it seems that skew is a characteristic of abrasive cut-off saws. I think I'm going to start looking around for a cold-cut saw.

    http://weldingweb.com/showthread.php...w-Skew-bad-saw
    Last edited by ned; 17-01-2017 at 03:04 PM.

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