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  1. #1
    +1 on the voltage spike possibility

    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    The PP pins send and receive 5v signals depending on the pin.
    Or 3.3V for most modern cards and laptops.....

    Quote Originally Posted by artmin View Post
    I remember when I could have popped over to PC world and picked one off the shelf but times seem to have changed.
    Maplin still stock some but I'm not sure what bus types for and what voltage data levels.

    - Nick

  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    +1 on the voltage spike possibility



    Or 3.3V for most modern cards and laptops.....



    Maplin still stock some but I'm not sure what bus types for and what voltage data levels.

    - Nick
    The PP cards generally are 5v logic.

    Sorry, you would need 4 drivers if you have a slaved X axis, I wasn't paying attention to the actuals, just the principles.

    What operating system are you using on the PC? Most of these PP cards have very old drivers. They work OK up to XP generally, but no later.

    I have got one of the PCI socket (not PCI express) PP cards (dual port) sat in a drawer and several new LPT leads, if you get stuck.

    Nick, Maplin used to be good, but it is just a toyshop now. Most of the gear you can get cheaper by up to 2/3 (that's a quarter of the price in pub talk) , though Maplin do take stuff back more readily.

    Cheers,

    Rob
    Last edited by cropwell; 21-02-2016 at 06:56 PM.

  3. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    The PP cards generally are 5v logic.
    Nope, that used to be the case but modern hardware can be running anything down to 2V Signal High.

    - Nick

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Nope, that used to be the case but modern hardware can be running anything down to 2V Signal High.

    - Nick
    Modern they aint. The cards with the Moschip MCS9805 or 9815 use 5v logic, and they are in the majority of add-on PP cards on the market.

    Rob

  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    Modern they aint. The cards with the Moschip MCS9805 or 9815 use 5v logic, and they are in the majority of add-on PP cards on the market.

    Rob
    Useful info, any big brands to look out for or just generic ebay stuff?

  6. #6
    If you have tried on another PC then you have elimnated the PC and it should have worked so this suggests you have other issues.?
    Doesn't matter if PC was old, infact often better being old as the PP will be 5V not 3v.

    I would start again removing anything that isn't required and re wire. Then Fresh install of software on Fresh PC if possible.
    If still giving trouble then chances are you have damaged chips or something on the control board.

    In this Case I would just scrap the whole lot and replace with modern gear.

  7. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    If you have tried on another PC then you have elimnated the PC and it should have worked so this suggests you have other issues.?
    Doesn't matter if PC was old, infact often better being old as the PP will be 5V not 3v.

    I would start again removing anything that isn't required and re wire. Then Fresh install of software on Fresh PC if possible.
    If still giving trouble then chances are you have damaged chips or something on the control board.

    In this Case I would just scrap the whole lot and replace with modern gear.
    The only chips on the control board are the drivers. If the input stages are bolloxed then I personally would go with the last idea as the PC seems to be very vulnerable. Case and power supply seem OK though although the case may be a little small for 4 drivers.

    Cheers,

    Rob

  8. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Useful info, any big brands to look out for or just generic ebay stuff?
    Nick, I don't buy dozens every day. All I remember is that the last one I bought was about £7 and was 'Generic Chinese' - that's the only brand I could get at a decent price. Startech are charging 4x that.

    Drivers are a sod to find if you lose the disk, you have to hunt t'Interweb based on chip or hardware id and try several before you find one that fits.

    Rob

  9. #9
    Thanks Guys and thanks Rob for the offer of the card if I get stuck.

    I'm running XP still on the CNC but it's that WinPC-NC Economy that I'm using. The PCI card was churning out 5V.

    Hopefully the new card will work and get it up and running, but I know that the old controller isn't the best. I would rather have a seperate PSU, BOB & drivers, so I'm thinking about building a second controller with 9 pin d sub OPs that will connect straight up to the machine and hold it as a backup until I can get time to crossover. I would also prefer to move over to Mach but I'd rather get a bit of practice on it first before going at it full tilt. I can't find anywhere on WinPC-NC to change the axis driver pins to match a BOB if I needed to. Spindle, coolant, tool sensor etc can be nominated but not the essentials it seems.

    I just have to wait for the postman now!

    Cheers,

    Gavin

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