Linking Inventor HSM to Bridgeport

**jackpat** · 24-02-2016

Hi All,

I have two bridgeport interacts with TNC 145 and have been looking at CAM software for a while now.. downloaded a few trials etc but have never got further than that.

Anyway, i was looking again today and realised Autodesk do "inventor HSM" and the 2.5D software is completely free! Perfect as i already have inventor.

So, i have had a good play around and drawn up a few tool paths, found a post for tnc 155 which will hopefully work, post processed the tool paths and im happy with how the programme looks.

...this is where i need help, i have no idea where to start when linking the computer to the machine and transfering the programme. I have a rs232 cable & serial adaptor which i have had much success with on a harrison alpha lathe, does anyone know of a step by step guide to linking a 145? I've read a lot about 151's but cant seem to find much for the 145.

Any help would be greatly appreciated and thanks in advance.

Best Regards,

Jack

**AndrewMawson** · 24-02-2016

It's in the manual here:

http://content.heidenhain.de/doku/om...b/22225625.pdf

Also down load TNC Server from :

http://www.heidenhain.com/en_US/docu...download-area/

**jackpat** · 25-02-2016

Thanks Andrew!

... I didnt think to look in the manual. Have you had any experience using wireless Rs232 connections? Trouble is, the computer i have inventor on is in an office about 20m from the machine... would a wireless connection work or should i just order a really long cable? (moving the computer isn't really an option).

Many thanks,

Jack

**AndrewMawson** · 25-02-2016

Jack,

My machine has a TNC355, I've previously had one with a TNC151b but never a TNC145. I think the transfer blockwise however works the same.

I had the same issue with distance between machine and computer - commercial wireless duplex RS232 units are a silly price and I eliminated them on cost. I did experiment with Bluetooth devices, but it just wasn't reliable enough - there are enough issues feeding the controller without having to worry about the integrity of the data ! So I made up a long lead - it's not difficult.

You'll find a discussion on the issue from a few years ago here :

http://www.cnczone.com/forums/bridge...923-posts.html

There are a few things you must get lined up:

a/ run TNC Server on the PC set in the correct mode and looking at the directory containing your program (TNCServer is part of TNCREMO)

b/ The program must have an 'I' extension for iso g code or 'H' extension for conversational, and must be 'named' by number 1.H 2.H 3.H etc. The program number has to be embedded into the first and last lines of the code as per the manual.

c/ Cable wiring needs to be correct - see that link - standard cables rarely work, they need customising.

d/ The TNC needs setting up for correct baud rate etc

Have fun and report back :)

**jackpat** · 25-02-2016

Thanks for quick response!

Heres an update: -

When establishing connection in TNCremo, its giving me a "no response from tnc" error...? I had the cable made up for me, it works perfect on the lathe.

For now i am programming in office, dropping files onto memory stick and using them in tncremo on laptop in workshop. I will make up a long cable once i get things running :)

Programme has a .H extension (145 cant convert to G-code i believe), so on line 0 i need to write "1.H" and the same on the last line?

Baud rate is set at 2400.

Thanks for the help! - look forward to hearing back.

Jack

**AndrewMawson** · 25-02-2016

Program format is absolutely vital - other wise it's ignored - here is an example pasted - don't seem to be able to attach as file :(

You have read the bit about setting the TNC 'mode' haven't you re EXT FE etc - sounds like your cable or setting are wrong rather than the pogram though

0 BEGIN PGM 14 MM
1 L Z0 R0 F15000 M91
2 TOOL CALL 2 Z S1309
3 L X0. Y0. R0 F15000 M6
4 L X27.5 Y19.0 R F M3
5 L R F M8
6 L Z2.54 R M
7 L Z0.254 R F236 M
8 L X37.5 Z-0.496 R F236 M
9 L X27.5 Z-1.247 R F236 M
10 L X37.5 Z-1.997 R F236 M
11 L X27.5 Z-2.747 R F236 M
12 L X37.5 Z-3.498 R F236 M
13 L X27.5 Z-4.248 R F236 M
14 L X37.5 Z-4.999 R F236 M
15 L X27.5 Z-5.749 R F236 M
16 L X37.5 Z-6.499 R F236 M
17 L X27.5 Z-7.25 R F236 M
18 L X37.5 Z-8.0 R F236 M
19 L X35.17 R F471 M
20 CALL LBL 1 REP
21 L X27.5 Y19.0 R M
22 L X37.5 Z-8.496 R F236 M
23 L X27.5 Z-9.247 R F236 M
24 L X37.5 Z-9.997 R F236 M
25 L X27.5 Z-10.747 R F236 M
26 L X37.5 Z-11.498 R F236 M
27 L X27.5 Z-12.248 R F236 M
28 L X37.5 Z-12.999 R F236 M
29 L X27.5 Z-13.749 R F236 M
30 L X37.5 Z-14.499 R F236 M
31 L X27.5 Z-15.25 R F236 M
32 L X37.5 Z-16.0 R F236 M
33 L X35.17 R F471 M
34 CALL LBL 1 REP
35 L X27.5 Y19.0 R M
36 L X37.5 Z-16.496 R F236 M
37 L X27.5 Z-17.247 R F236 M
38 L X37.5 Z-17.997 R F236 M
39 L X27.5 Z-18.747 R F236 M
40 L X37.5 Z-19.498 R F236 M
41 L X27.5 Z-20.248 R F236 M
42 L X37.5 Z-20.999 R F236 M
43 L X27.5 Z-21.749 R F236 M
44 L X37.5 Z-22.499 R F236 M
45 L X27.5 Z-23.25 R F236 M
46 L X37.5 Z-24.0 R F236 M
47 L X35.17 R F471 M
48 CALL LBL 1 REP
49 L X27.5 Y19.0 R M
50 L X37.5 Z-24.496 R F236 M
51 L X27.5 Z-25.247 R F236 M
52 L X37.5 Z-25.997 R F236 M
53 L X27.5 Z-26.747 R F236 M
54 L X37.5 Z-27.498 R F236 M
55 L X27.5 Z-28.248 R F236 M
56 L X37.5 Z-28.999 R F236 M
57 L X27.5 Z-29.749 R F236 M
58 L X37.5 Z-30.499 R F236 M
59 L X27.5 Z-31.25 R F236 M
60 L X37.5 Z-32.0 R F236 M
61 L X35.17 R F471 M
62 CALL LBL 1 REP
63 L R FMAX M
64 TOOL CALL 2 Z S1571
65 L X33.834 Y24.85 R FMAX M
66 F471
67 L X32.559 Y25.928 R F368 M
68 CC X31.504 Y23.388
69 C X30.895 Y26.07 DR+ R F184 M
70 CC X32.5 Y19.0
71 C X30.895 Y26.07 DR+ R F218 M
72 CC X32.5 Y19.0
73 C X28.566 Y25.09 DR+ R M
74 CC X30.058 Y22.78
75 C X27.505 Y23.801 DR+ R F184 M
76 L X27.385 Y22.136 R F368 M
77 L Z25.4 R M
78 L Z0 R0 F15000 M91
79 L R F M2
80 LBL 1
81 CC X32.5 Y19.0
82 C X35.17 Y19.0 DR+ R F471 M
83 CC X49.383 Y19.0
84 C X35.525 Y22.159 DR- R M
85 CC X33.334 Y22.658
86 C X33.834 Y24.85 DR+ R M
87 CC X32.5 Y19.0
88 C X33.834 Y24.85 DR+ R M
89 LBL 0
90 END PGM 14 MM

**jackpat** · 25-02-2016

Yeah i think it sounds like the cable, i've been told pin layout will be different on the one i have... So ive just been to maplins for the bits to make up a new one :).

The programme the cam has generated looks absolutely fine.

Cheers,

**jackpat** · 25-02-2016

Wired cable up 2-2, 3-3, 5-7 and still no joy. Will try with 4-8 6-4 7-5 and 20-6 aswell and see how we get on (wiring from post on cnczone).

Cheers,

**AndrewMawson** · 25-02-2016

There is a Heidenhain publication called

Data Interfaces
of HEIDENHAIN Devices
Service Manual

Google it and down load - if you can't find it pm me your email address and I'll send you a copy.

It describes all the parameters and setting for the various controllers for RS232 comms - this is a small extract that is probably in your manual anyway but it has far more detail