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Dave_stoke
04-11-2018, 11:32 AM
Hi guys I hope someone can help me.
My 3040T has started to drift right. It starts quite well then drifts .5mm if a rapid change in direction is there or it lifts to make a fresh cut.

On a simple lego block program the first pass is OK ish. 2nd pass cuts into the brick risers. And is off on the right by 0.96.

I set new alu Jaws in the vice and machined those manually with toggle. So I know they are true.

As when trying to engrave it steps each character up 0.3mm or wanders off diagonally.

Machine settings are
400,1500,400 all 3 axis mach3.
I don't know if it's software or hardware that's causing the problem. Screen jog shows on target. Tool tip tells a different story.

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magicniner
04-11-2018, 12:25 PM
Check your stepper to shaft coupling isn't slipping, and that the end float control bearing isn't moving, the best way is disassembly and reassembly as "Looking OK" has often proven misleading to others in the past

Dave_stoke
04-11-2018, 12:29 PM
Check your stepper to shaft coupling isn't slipping, and that the end float control bearing isn't moving, the best way is disassembly and reassembly as "Looking OK" has often proven misleading to others in the pastI was thinking this. I did partially strip yesterday to clean the bed, I checked all bolts while they were exposed. I will pull gantry covers off and check all those too.

It's all ballscrew is it wise to lube the screws and runners?

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magicniner
04-11-2018, 12:46 PM
Serious professional builds usually have intermittent oil feed to the nut, this not only lubricates but keeps the screw and nut clean as the oil carries away any dirt.

Dave_stoke
04-11-2018, 02:05 PM
Serious professional builds usually have intermittent oil feed to the nut, this not only lubricates but keeps the screw and nut clean as the oil carries away any dirt.I just checked all lock nuts, grub screws it's dry running now. I oiled the juts screws and runners while I was in there. It might be a controller issue

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Dave_stoke
04-11-2018, 02:12 PM
It's no different, I let it run 1/4 of that process, and stopped it. It's 1.0525mm off from x zero on return to zero.
So controller issue? 25011250122501325014

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magicniner
04-11-2018, 06:18 PM
Sounds like you might be losing steps?
Drop your acceleration and max speed to half what they are currently and re-test.

Dave_stoke
04-11-2018, 06:42 PM
Sounds like you might be losing steps?
Drop your acceleration and max speed to half what they are currently and re-test.I'll try that tomorrow, I know when in helix cutting if the ramp angle is too shallow it doesn't move. I use 0.5-2mm bits and killed 15 so far but most was poor setup by me.
Pha.... Amateurs! Lol.

I'm down to 1x1mm 2fl. 1x1mm 3fl and 1x2mm 3fl so my feeds are usually slower no faster than 190.

IN plunge it seems fine. Its just this drift now any chance it might be software? It's China made and the software isn't genuine it's basically as it come.

Oh my o/s is 64bit mach3 is running in 32bit compatability mode. But with that said on the other system (32bit) 4th axis just spins instead of indexing. It seems to index on the 64bit. But it's very recent like since Friday it started this drift.


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magicniner
04-11-2018, 07:01 PM
Unless you find a supported Plug In for Mach3 or change your controller you're usually stuck with the Hacked, Packed and Cracked version shipped with the product.

Dave_stoke
06-11-2018, 12:56 PM
Unless you find a supported Plug In for Mach3 or change your controller you're usually stuck with the Hacked, Packed and Cracked version shipped with the product.I went half speed it went far worse. I upped the feed rate to 279 from 190 and its bang on. Its slower feeds it struggles with.

I need more confidence in the tooling

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magicniner
06-11-2018, 02:25 PM
Do you have access to the Micro-Stepping settings for the drivers?

Dave_stoke
06-11-2018, 02:42 PM
Do you have access to the Micro-Stepping settings for the drivers?Not sure, how do I find out?

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magicniner
06-11-2018, 06:06 PM
Not sure, how do I find out?

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Dig deep, look at the controllers and see if they have configuration dip switches.

Dave_stoke
06-11-2018, 06:15 PM
Dig deep, look at the controllers and see if they have configuration dip switches.Oh in the actual box? Yes they all have dip switches on there

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Dave_stoke
06-11-2018, 06:31 PM
They are all switched the same, first and last are X axis https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181106/8bf5c7cef4c5aa944d5525d4cf8c089c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181106/bccfd55c57eda17b364f10ca30866fbe.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181106/a7535c8560c82b4561cf01949ca073ab.jpg

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magicniner
06-11-2018, 07:27 PM
Do you have access to the Micro-Stepping settings for the drivers?

You probably do, you just need to identify the drives, model numbers?
Maybe even a chart of the settings screen printed on the drive?
Maybe?

Michael82
27-11-2019, 11:42 PM
Have you calibrated your motors when got got the machine I have the same machine and had the same problem...1st u have to figure the settings for the steps on your motor then you need to calibrate the motors. Let me know if you need ant help as far as settings

Michael82
27-11-2019, 11:52 PM
I have this same machine did you calibrate your motors in mach3? 1st set up a dial indicator and see if it moves what you tell it to move if not you need to adjust your steps in ports and pins in mach3 . Let me know if u need any help