Just bought this with a load of extras,the lathe is 8 months old....did I get a bargain :whistling::whistling:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...hes-milldrills
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Just bought this with a load of extras,the lathe is 8 months old....did I get a bargain :whistling::whistling:
http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/pr...hes-milldrills
Depends how much you paid for it will determine whether its a bargain
I'll let ya know when it transpires first,Peter.
Can't go counting me chickens ect,ect :wink: watch this space.
Hi George,
It might be only 8 months old because I suspect the buyer outgrew it. The guys in the toolroom at work always tell me they like to do even the small stuff on big lathes because of the mass and rigidity. Still, let us know how it goes when you've had a play . . .
Well as much as I'd like a bigboys toy I really can't have one...simply because I wouldn't be able to get it in the cubby hole(workshop) we don't all have garages ya know.
You need to factor in (wrt bargain or not) that Clarke lathes (as all their stuff) are typically more expensive like for like.
I much prefer the super C3 variant here ...
http://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalo...-C3-Mini-Lathe
How do HMS...unsinkable :smile:
The Clarke is exactly the same model as that C3 and other variants of this model.
http://www.littlemachineshop.com/pro...ory=1271799306
Axminster do it with their own name across it,so does the Taig.
I just compared the two there HMS,and the clarke has a better gear cluster and they're external gears ie easily accessed,whereas the AUT C3 has two gears(plastic) internal on the spindle shaft and gear change rod,this means if you wanted to change those plastic gears then you would have to strip it down and that means taking the back 62mm beairng off(not an easy feat).
Plus the motor has a higher spec.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeD
Please try doing some homework first.
The external gears are for screwcutting and the internal gears are the 2 speed high / low drive.
Both machines have the same gears, you just didn't bother to read and compare correctly.
The Taig lathe is a totally different animal, doesn't even look like the C3 mini lathe variation and is made solely by Taig in the USA.
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Arc Euro quoteQuote:
The external gears are for screwcutting and the internal gears are the 2 speed high / low drive.
Both machines have the same gears, you just didn't bother to read and compare correctly.
Quieter machine since spindle gears no longer required
MHS was on about the C3 the above quote is for the Supec3 which is the same as the clarke.
I'll have anothe gander at the Taig now?
Sorry it was the Microlux not the Taig. :redface:
Plastic gears don't not always mean poorer quality either it can mean a much quieter lathe? Look at the big Kerry lathes they have two and thats on pro kit
wrt to ArcEurotrade C3 'wins' over the Clarke C3, I was more thinking of the more powerful Motor (500W), longer bed, the leadscrew cover (I have an Axminster C2 mini lathe & the crud on the leadscrew gets right on me tits) .....then there's the Cam locking Tailstock (which would set you back another thirty quid) ....all those improvements for £35 less than the older variant Clarke sells for.
Well they would say that wouldn't he....otherwise he'd lose a sale.lolQuote:
wrt to ArcEurotrade C3 'wins' over the Clarke C3
The superC3 is the Clarke model as well.
Anyway hows your tits? :wink:
If all goes to plan (legs and fingers crrossed) its less than half the price of a new one. :whistling:
There are many minilathes on ebay, Warco, Chester, Axminster, Seig, Clarke etc... given that the best 'new' price is about £360 for the 350mm 400W version with a 4" chuck (forget the 3" ones, you cant use the full spindle bore). Throw in a 4-jaw and steady and some tools and your looking at £480 delivered... a secondhand one, year or so old is typically £250-£300 (mine was at the lower end of that), tho you get people asking nearly new prices... but they rarely sell. Anything less than 300W (there are 150 and 250W ones) is a waste of money. MachineMart are way overpriced compared to others... for the same product.
As to size... I've not outgrown mine yet, tho its come close on one or two jobs...
Its £250,£30 of that is shipping and it has everything I need without going out and buying stuff for it.
2xrest different ones
3xcentersplus arbor
1xarbour and chuck
1xbox of cutters
1xbox of drill bits
Various other pieces.
Sorry if this is *totally* the wrong place for this. (I will make a proper thread in the selling corner in due course)...
But if you're interested I'll be selling my Seig C3 with dual digital readouts, and digital spindle speed readout in the next week or so. URGENTLY need the space to put my CNC in it's place.
Unit is a few months old <10 hours on it I reckon!
(I spent longer stripping it down, cleaning, tuning and tinkering with it than I actually did using it to machine parts!!) :eek:
Bought from Arc EuroTrade, will include various bells and whistles, ANDthe extra bearings for swapping out in the headstock if you want... (I never got around to swapping them)
Can deliver to Liverpool/Manchester/Nottingham region depending on times.
Not going to ask the world of £££ for it, sad to see it go so soon - but REALLY can't afford the space and £££ to keep it.
Ta,
Dan
Edit: Forgot to mention: It has the quick change tool post and a load of tools too etc...
Send me a PM,Dan.
Will let you know tomorrow depending on this one if it transpires.
Cheers
I looked up the guys address where the lathe was coming from on Google street view,and when I turned around after seeing the house I seen a model shop :surprised: the model shop was directly facing the house where the guy lives across the square.
Bit of a coincidence that ain't it?
Sad thing is it won't get here till monday now due to him not meeting the deadline at 1400 collection...bu**er.
good bargain.... get a quick change toolpost from HarryUK123 on ebay, you'll not regret it compared to the standard toolpost..
How do Irving.
Until the lathe is sitting here on my table then I'll be over the moon,but since the money went through all suspicions are very high now ie the guy was playing for time when I was about to transfer paypal money.
Basically this will not arrive monday now but tuesday,if it arrives? he had ample time to contact the collection courier but this is were the stalling game came into play and it was at this point that suspicions became aroused.
As for Harryuk123 sorry but won't be buying from him anymore due to the spindle he sold me.
The spindle was supposed to be new,the spindle was in a terrible state,rusted in the bore and had markings on the shaft where a previous bearing had been located.
Your choice, I've always had exemplary service and goods from him... for me, one incident doesn't rule them out, sometimes suppliers get caught out by their supply chain, stuff arrives wrapped and boxed..they dont inspect every single item unless someone draws it to their attention - its how they deal with it that differentiates a good supplier from a bad one...Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeD
Irving,I sent him two or three emails asking him did he want to come to some arrangement ie drop the price a bit or send me an item for the dropped price.
He ignored all contact to alleviate the problem,the spindle came wrapped in waxed brown paper,only would have taken a minute to unravel and check it out.
His communication is poor, his 3 ebay negs will vouch for that.
3 negs out of 3000? I think sometimes its too easy to be hyper-critical when you've never done it yourself... in a small organisation it only takes someone to be off sick a few days for a backlog to build up, and with online we expect instant response when in reality it might take a few days to work out what the issue is, contact the original supplier, decide on an action and reply. And you know what, sometimes the customer isn't right... (and I speak from personal experience as a major online retailer)Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeD
After neglected emails I did phone him up and his response was NO to the request...send it back for a refund with the loss of my P&P return,that is not right its not my fault and I should be fully reimbursed with returns carriage.
99% of the general public are fine but you always get one twat that expects a Rolls Royce for a mini price.
Gert sells on Ebay and one of the items she used to sell were Myford oilers, she used to go to Myfords, buy 30 or 40 at a time, take them out of the original packing which was Chinese and not Myford packaging, rebox them in plain boxes and sell them.
Anyway one day one set slipped thru the net and was sent out in the Chinese boxes, the guy was most indignant.
"I want my money back, I don't want this crap and I'm going to Myfords to buy a genuine set "
We didn't have the heart to tell him.
Excuse me,if you want to be conned into accepting used gear sold as new then thats fine,but don't expect others to do the same thing.Quote:
99% of the general public are fine but you always get one twat that expects a Rolls Royce for a mini price.
In this instance I am ignoring my own belief in free speech.
OK I have had enough. GeorgeD I am struggling to understand you. In the space of a couple of weeks you have had a go at Gary (Zapp), Harry123 that you bought a spindle from, you are doubting the guy you may or may not have bought a lathe from plus God knows who else.
Half of your posts are nothing more than verbal diarrhoea. You do not appear to have the ability to understand the unsubtle hints to wind your neck in, even when delivered with all the tact of a nuclear air strike.
If you find this offensive, good!!, it means something may well have registered in whatever occupies your cranial cavity. I can only hope that you learn from the experience!!
I have no specialist knowledge, no CNC experience or anything that the Forum will miss ... if the Moderators decide my membership should be curtailed then so be it.
I have enjoyed being part of this community.
Thank You.
Here, Here, I agree.
Ditto,
George, 8 posts a day for most of a month is fine, if they're contributing to the forum. If there were 5 people on this forum with a similar attitude (post now, think later), the whole place would be unreadable, and I wouldn't have time to sift through the rubbish to find what I need, so I wouldn't be a member.
A note of caution if you've truly been messed about by a seller is (possibly) fair enough (if you've got the time, and you really think others are likely to encounter the same problem). A one-man personal attack against an ebay seller is not a valuable contribution.
George, please post some of your pictures, and make some more valuable (and positive) contributions. Quality not quantity.
End of rant.
New toy arrived....Oh dear...you just cannot trust the packer as it was terribly packed...but on the other hand the box was upside down in the van.
:cry:
Hmmm! have not done a service on this because it looks as if it needs one.
Seems the person who put this together was in a rush to use it? one of the gear clusters is damaged(LargeOne)it was wobbling out of true on the shaft(needs replacing but the lathe still works.
The crack in the housing in the pic is not a real problem but its just that annoying feeling you get when an item of this ilk is poorly packed,the guy said he thought he'd packed it well lol :thumbdown: and as stated the box/lathe was upside down in the van~(label says this way up please) on the top so I can't leave all the blame with the sender.
Bit noisy,are they noisy in general?
:wink:
no, mine runs near silent... They come with the gear clusters pre-installed, the only thing that is in the bag to be installed are the actual changewheels. I dont see how a cluster can be out of true on a shaft... suggests the shaft is bent.. maybe from the impact on the gear cover in transit? Incidentally these ship new bolted to the base of a wooden box...
I notice the year/batch code is 05/K... how does that tally with 'only a year old'?
Hi Irving
Hmmm! year batch didn't look at that.
Took the gear cog off and its definatly the bore ie the person must have hammered? it on because the damage indicates the pin on the shaft didn't line up with the cogs pin cutout,Im summizing he's changed the gears for the threading gears at one time and hasn't relocated the main gear cog properly?
Well its not that noisy just whirring noise.
Possibly main headstock gears running dry... see the LittleMachineShop user guide (an excellent resource) for how to lube them without removing/dismantling the headstock...
Thanks Irving.
Had a bit of an headache earlier so went for a snooze.
Another question if you will,the crossslide feed handle and the dial are very loose is this normal? does it click per each segement of applied cut?
Doesn't look like it :(Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeD
What,Bill...I didn't get a bargain? or its not as new as they say it is?
Despite £30 carriage at £220 it was worth it,the crack in the case is really superficial and an aluminium plate screwed/glued? over it will suffice,the cog is buttons to replace.
no,there's no click, it needs adjusting... read the guide I linked to earlier... they loosen up with age and need tightening from time to time....sometimes the cross slide loosens because too heavy a cut has been attempted and the tool has dug in... tho with only 300W that less of an issue, the motor stalls out if you try too hard.Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeD
BTW, do not rely on the cross-slide markings for any degree of accuracy.... they are only good in a relative sense.... always measure the workpiece....