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		Personally, I wouldn't bother with the resistor at all. Seems like unnecessary complication, given three or four drivers draining the caps on power-off. Main use would be draining the caps during testing with nothing else connected, but that's a bit artificial anyway. Heating was why I suggested the value I did, which would only be dissipating a watt or so, but why bother?
	 
	
	
	
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Neale
				
			 
			 Heating was why I suggested the value I did, which would only be dissipating a watt or so, but why bother?
			
		
	 
 Depends on how the control is wired.!
One reason to bother is that when a drive faults or E-stop occurs the motors will continue to rotate for fraction of second until power is drained. No big deal you'd think.!! . . BUT. .  it is a big deal with Slaved motors if one drive faults and other doesn't because the one that doesn't fault remains under power until power is drained. The faulted drive removes power and stops rotating so the gantry gets racked every time.
	 
	
	
	
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			Depends on how the control is wired.!
One reason to bother is that when a drive faults or E-stop occurs the motors will continue to rotate for fraction of second until power is drained. No big deal you'd think.!! . . BUT. .  it is a big deal with Slaved motors if one drive faults and other doesn't because the one that doesn't fault remains under power until power is drained. The faulted drive removes power and stops rotating so the gantry gets racked every time.
			
		
	 
 Unless you have the driver fault relays and enable signals integrated into the design, then they all stop together or as close together as possible.
	 
	
	
	
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		Initially  i was not going to use a resistor because of the drivers draining as pointed out. i've read a lot of posts that discuss this  and i know a lot of the experienced`builders don't bother because of the reasons stated. but i will be using a relay in the e/stop  circuit anyway and it will have an empty  N/C   contact available so it's an extra terminal for the resistor and an extra piece of cable to hook it in.  i think that's all that's required anyway?  if  i don't use it i will definitely integrate the fault relays and enable signals as Eddy suggested.     on another note my toroidal coil  arrived friday. i should have the cap and bridge this week, hopefully.  the coil has 3 windings http://www.airlinktransformers.com/c...nge/CM0625225/  the colours are as follows:   coil 1  BROWN / BLUE      1.6 ohms
                 coil 2   BLACK / RED         0.5 ohms
                 coil 3  YELLOW / ORANGE  0.5 ohms
so i assume from this that the following 
  Coil 1 = mains supply 230 vac
  coil 2 = 25vac
  coil 3 = 25vac
 and if i  join BLACK and YELLOW together power up and meter across RED  and ORANGE  i should get 50 vac   OR  0 vac .   a change of the secondary coil arrangement  if i read 0 volts. i will try it tomorrow to see.
	 
	
	
	
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		Recently bought one of the Airlink trafo's. Join black/yellow together and red/orange will give you 50v AC or there about.
	 
	
	
	
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EddyCurrent
				
			 
			Unless you have the driver fault relays and enable signals integrated into the design, then they all stop together or as close together as possible.
			
		
	 
 Yes and exactly why I said depends on how control is wired.!! . . . Several why's to do same thing. Fact still remains that it's NOT ok if control NOT wired in correct Manner.!
	 
	
	
	
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		i'll have to give that a go. above all the system has to be safe  and i would like to use the functionality of what the boards have   to offer . the notion of draining the caps as quickly as possible is still worth a shot too because if i have to go into a cabinet with caps holding a charge then i rather go in when they're safe. i'll probably put a cover over the psu  to be on the safe side.  either way at least the conversations on the blogs really bring it home about the safety and choices available.
	 
	
	
	
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		i have 4 core 1.5mm sqrd.  cy cable on order for the steppers, is there a recommended cable for the spindle?http://2.2KW WATER COOLED SPINDLE MO... OWNING | eBay.
	 
	
	
	
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 Same cable will work if you have ordered enough. Either don't use one of the cores or use the 4th core for an earth if you want. Personaly I don't bother with earth on spindle and just don't use 4th core.
	 
	
	
	
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		While the cable you have would work, and many people use that I'm sure, if you look in the manuals for 2.2kw drives you will see that 2.5mm^2 is generally recommended.
Also I think it's a good idea to take an earth directly to the spindle because if you have a motor to earth fault a lot of current will flow, if you don't have an earth wire it could flow though the bearings finding a path to earth and this could ruin them. If you were selling these things commercially they would have to meet regulations which most likely also encompass manufacturers recommendations, but if it's for yoursefl then you have to decide how far you want to go.