They don't - the eBay listings are just an automated search, so the site does not earn from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by John S
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They don't - the eBay listings are just an automated search, so the site does not earn from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by John S
If thats so why make it hard for us?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan
Phill
https://www.ebaypartnernetwork.com/Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan
What was that about not earning money?
you know there must be a catch though jonathan or lee would have taken them down when the general feelings where expressedQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan
(i can see lots of ways this can be abused to suit the few at the expense of the many)
its getting close for me, the forum is still usable but i feel used and abused when i do so... im torn on the principle of itQuote:
at what point does the forum become useless as the adverts force mainstream users away ?
its the general users that draw the traffic
i feel treated like a commodity and then im asked to be thankfull :(
not happy
now i see, it was pretty obvious there was somthing.Quote:
What was that about not earning money?
Lee, you said "iv given with three hands and only taken with one"
you will have to forgive me for not quite agreeing with you there
I should have said 'as far as I know Lee doesn't earn anything from the eBay adverts.'
No you should have kept for your mouth shut untill you knew for sure.!! . . . But to be honest can't believe you where so nieve to think he didn't it was obvious from his previous comments.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan
Personally I haven't got a problem with Lee making money from the site, good luck to him.!. . But it is starting to get ridiculous the amount and piss's me off that they are taking over the recent activity section.!!
Eventually people get to the point they start clicking else where.!! . . . . It's just a matter of where folks point lies.?? . . . Must admit this last couple of weeks I've found my self back over on the Cnczone more than I have in previous months.!!
iv not joined yet, how does it compare jazz?Quote:
I've found my self back over on the Cnczone more than I have in previous months.!!
It doesn't compare really mark it's huge with some much info it can/does become overwelming esp to new folks. Thats why they come over here and find it easier and more pleasant, even when numb nuts and I are butting heads. There's so meny different types of people each with there own view point that head butting is the norm.!!Quote:
Originally Posted by blackburn mark
Get past that and the bullshit and it's a wealth of information and you can bet your last quid it's been done or asked.?
Problem had with the zone was it was divided into so many sub categories, that`s relatively not so much an issue now....
Lee has gone on about users not using the site properly, having had to deal with architects a lot , they have the same problem, people aren`t lab rats and dont behave as expected or take to conditioning particularly well, have to modify to suit how people actually react, not how would wish them to.
Appreciate hosting isn`t free and something has to pay the bills, but there are other ways of introducing ad`s and affiliate schemes that are not so intrusive.
As long as their presence is for income generating activity is clear to everyone.
At moment ,the ebay ad`s are very intrusive and shuffle recent activity off the ticker, personally don`t bother logging in unless there is a thread might want to post into, otherwise just read through from latest posts, no need to log in.
Now the latest post ticker is pretty much unuseable, have to remember myself threads that might be of interest and check for updates, through a mass of sub categories, perhaps a UK outpost on the zone would be more useable.
Cheers
Adam
[QUOTE=JAZZCNC;32937]Thats why they come over here and find it easier and more pleasantQUOTE]
thats why its a dilema, i like this clan here, this is where i got my help and iv done my share of trying to pay that back here (and i like metric)
each time i log on now the ebay adds are a constant reminder that to one member something Supersedes the community wellfare
this is nothing like the forum i joined a couple of years ago
it may make me sound like a dick but i cant shake it, lots of us have invested energy into this forum, its being squandered
Nope not dick headish to me mark 100% know were your coming from.!Quote:
Originally Posted by blackburn mark
I do not usually get involved with these sort of posts but I have to say that the prevalence of ebay ads is getting frustrating.
I have noticed though that over 30 people have looked on the ads. There is obviously a desire for them for some but if they could be in a seperate area.
Leave the ticker box for what most of us are here for and I am sure we would be happy.
Why not leave the ads on Ebay where they belong.
Long Short is you are either hosting a forum or running a scam to make money - simples
This forum is ??? years old and hasn't had them before, now in the classified ads there is only 1 advert in 10 that's relevant to MEMBERS of this forum.
If Lee hadn't extended the latest posts forum on todays showing it would have been unusable.
The zone is fine, loads of information but best way to use the zone is not to read it but search it as everything is splattered all over.
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The zone is fine, loads of information but best way to use the zone is not to read it but search it as everything is splattered all over.
in other words, not quite as good as we used to beQuote:
There's so meny different types of people each with there own view point that head butting is the norm.!!
Get past that and the bullshit and it's a wealth of information and you can bet your last quid it's been done or asked.?
maybe lee can be persuaded to calm down a bit... im kind of losing faith
lee has said somewhere that he likes to keep things transparent however, in the last discusion on this subject he gave the impression that his motive where he though it would be a "cool idea" to have the ebay adds
no mention at all about turning it into cash, not very transparent at all
i would have had more respect lee if you had said " sorry lads im skint and about to start pissing everyone off for cash" (thats transparent)
i dont much like crossing people or holding people to account, it aint fun at all but if i dont say my peice iv no right to go on bitching about it
im sure you would have prefered a PM lee but its only on an open forum that we get a feel of the community feeling on the matter
please reconsider
as a new user to this site i've already learnt more information here than my previous weeks viewing over at cnczone... while theres not many of you here at the moment and i can understand why due to the ebay add's i beg you not to leave :D i still need loads of help haha.
just out of interest the bot thats posting the links is just a user isnt it? can we personally not block all posts from that user?
EDIT: nevermind you can ignore them and not see any posts in a thread by them, but can still see thread titles
Blimey if you don't like adverts then this site is blooming fantastic compared to CNCZone :whistle:
Unless you pay for gold membership, that is, when he will kindly allow you to turn them off :joker:
Yes and no robin.?? The zone puts them were they belong which is at the top or bottom of the page or in the sides lines not pushing good threads off what is a very good feature.Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Hewitt
My grievence and I think most others is not the adverts but the fact they are spoiling our viewing experience making it harder than it needs or used to be.!!
Surely it can't be hard to get them off the Recent activity list and into there own list.?? . . After all they are not forum activity but Bots (Albeit Management cash cows) spamming our user experience.!
i have a theory why them ads have so many views, up on the top bar there is a number that tells you how many new posts/threads there are i personally just click on then off the ebay ads to clear that number down
EDIT.. btw you can acctually change that box full of ebay stuff to display some other random usefull facts such as most viewed thread or something..
I run several websites, and the sole reason you do what's been done here with ebay linking, is for monetary reasons.
If there wasn't a way to make money from it, as a website designer/programmer, you simply wouldn't normally bother.
And as wilfy has mentioned, the main reason alot of the ebay threads have view counts, is people clicking on them simply to clear them of their unread posts. The way around that is to select the ebay forum, then select "Mark this forum read" from the "Forum Tools" menu. All unread ebay posts disappear from your unread/new posts list.
Right chaps, just to keep this thread informed and for the avoidance of doubt, the ebay feed is NOT implemented as a source of cash from ebay.
>EDIT; deleted "revenue stream" wrong words<
and I am opening my mouth when I'm sure, I'm not guessing -[ edit; because I asked Lee that direct question].
(please post any appropriate apologies, retractions, penances or cilice to this thread). :-)
My 2p worth? I'd like to see "guest" users have to register before they can read the content - as some other sites do. But that's a different can of worms!
PS
If you find the forum a useful resource there's always the small button at the top of the page called "Donate" that you can use too. :-)
So why do all the ebay links go via Skimlinks?Quote:
Originally Posted by mocha
Now in Skimlinks own words(oh you gotta love vB for it's formatted pasting!)Quote:
Skimlinks gives you countless ways to seamlessly and automatically earn.
Now what was that about it not being a revenue stream?
who cares they got rid of it now... lets get back to helping us noobies out :D
Get what you mean Wilfy.!. . BUT I care and so do some other good folks on here.!! . . . This site has become what it has off the back of people who have been good enough to take time out of there day/night to bring this site to a level by helping "us noobies" that it's possible to make money off it's advertising.Quote:
Originally Posted by wilfy
If Lee is making money off the site thats great for him and if he's doing that partly "OFF MY BACK" then I'm happy to allow that SO LONG that it doesn't impact on my Forum experience or clash with any of my principles or values.!! . . . . IT WAS .. spoiling my forum experience and NOW with this its upset my principles (if thats the right word.?)
Now while I don't mind money being made I certainly don't like being treat like I'm stupid.! So playing with words to avoid telling the full truth tickles my buttons but when it comes in the form of a slightly condesending message from moderator it pushs the buttons fully. .:grumpy:Quote:
Originally Posted by mocha
I for one don't believe for one minute there's NO finacial insentive for these Ebay Ads and Lee's own words in a previous thread "To fund this I’m going to reinvest the revenue generated by the site from advertising and so on," contridicts these words "the ebay feed is NOT implemented as a source of cash from ebay. "
So playing with words instead of saying " The ebay feed earns NO source of cash from any means" would have been a better reply.
LEE obviously knows about this thread so out RESPECT to it's main contributors, who are the one's complaining.!! He should have responded well before now saying just this.!! THEN and only then would it be acceptable for these words " (please post any appropriate apologies, retractions, penances or cilice to this thread)"
From my own perspective then my post's have been less frequent recently due to personal/work stuff but I feel they will be getting even less frequent with this lack of consideration or respect.!!
OK?Quote:
Right chaps, just to keep this thread informed and for the avoidance of doubt, the ebay feed is NOT implemented as a source of cash from ebay
i guess that makes it trueQuote:
and I am opening my mouth when I'm sure, I'm not guessing -[ edit; because I asked Lee that direct question].
my sincerest apologies go to anyone i have wrongedQuote:
(please post any appropriate apologies, retractions, penances or cilice to this thread). :-)
i disagree, the info/write ups i do are for who ever cares to look, no catch.... i personaly bin any forum that is on the take before iv even seen any content (2p worth)....EDIT: i can see the frustration though 200 regular member users and a couple of thousand non member readers (if i remember correctly)Quote:
My 2p worth? I'd like to see "guest" users have to register before they can read the content - as some other sites do. But that's a different can of worms!
i have no problem with the donate idea :) dont forget to ask yourself "why" or what is it that is "useful" and where that "usefulness" comes fromQuote:
PS
If you find the forum a useful resource there's always the small button at the top of the page called "Donate" that you can use too. :-)
ill buy that :)Quote:
who cares they got rid of it now... lets get back to helping us noobies out :D
I love it when Jazz erupts, quality ranting :joker:Quote:
Originally Posted by JAZZCNC
jesus robin!!! dont encourage him:hopelessness:Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin Hewitt
my point was not just who cares, but who cares anymore, your points have obviously been noticed as it's now been sorted out :D chillout man
p.s. i do understand the upset, and without regular replies to posts it would seem like this site is primarily about advertising, i do understand that some of the money will go towards to upkeep of the site, i'm not sure however how much of it then turns to profit, last time i looked at things such as google adwords they didnt generate an awful lot of income
Eh eh classic.!! . . no worries mark I've took the pills.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackburn mark
Again no worries wilfy the pills are taken.!! . . Also In no way was I having a go at you hope you didn't think I was.?Quote:
Originally Posted by wilfy
It's not about money to me and I'm sure Lee only makes beer tokens to cover a pint or two at best.? It's the lack of reply and respect for peoples intelligence of the people who make the site what it is that push's (pushed) my buttons.!!
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Originally Posted by JAZZCNC
yeah that i can understand dude no problem
thats fine wilfy, if the forum wasnt paying its keep im sure we are all open to finding ways and bending to change that fact as long as we all know "what where and why"Quote:
last time i looked at things such as google adwords they didnt generate an awful lot of income
its very easy to be cynical when things look less than up front.
like jazz i have no problem with the sight making money but this is an open forum where we can speak our minds and have things out with each other so when people feel aggrieved we get to thrash it out... thats a good thing :)
and its great that you can be so open with each other, i read a brilliant thread recently where i saw Johnathan and jazz having a good old debate with each other which to an outsider would look very hostile, but from further readings i can see that they are very respectful of each others views but have some differing opinions