Electronic edge finder: how do they work?
Been looking at electronic edge finders that light up when they touch the edge of the workpiece, but don't see how they work. Is it that touching the workpiece completes a circuit through the mill - this seems a tad tenuous, or does the contact close a switch in the finder.. in which case how sensitive is that if these are good to .02mm or better! Thoughts?
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Well have you seen the edge finder a guy posted on the zone ? i also read about a guy who took the mouse from an old laptop and turned it into a edge finder.
Is that the kind of thing you mean or ?
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Lee Roberts
Well have you seen the edge finder a guy posted on the zone ? i also read about a guy who took the mouse from an old laptop and turned it into a edge finder.
Is that the kind of thing you mean or ?
I mean this sort of thing:
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The tip is insulated and when it touches the workpiece, the circuit is completed and the LED lights.
Too bad if you're machining plastic. :thumbdown:
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tumutbound
The tip is insulated and when it touches the workpiece, the circuit is completed and the LED lights.
Too bad if you're machining plastic. :thumbdown:
that means the circuit is tip, workpiece, table, column, head, chuck... surely not... a tad tenuous at best...
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irving2008
that means the circuit is tip, workpiece, table, column, head, chuck... surely not... a tad tenuous at best...
Only as tenious as power station, sub station, machine tool and neutral,
is 36,000 miles a second or whatever good enough ?
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John S
Only as tenious as power station, sub station, machine tool and neutral,
is 36,000 miles a second or whatever good enough ?
not speed John, connectivity... surely relying on all those having a good or any electrical connection to each other is tenuous?
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Especially if the spindle has ceramic bearings no ?
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that means the circuit is tip, workpiece, table, column, head, chuck... surely not... a tad tenuous at best...
Yep, that how those ones work (I have a Sony probe for my magnescale DRO that works exactly the same)
You can get touch probes that are effectively sensitive normally-closed switches (usually three switches in series at 120' to each other) relying on movement of the probe to open the switches and the closed position of the switch as a position reference.
Nice home-brew design here:
http://tmonnot.free.fr/Fraisage/Palpeur3D.htm
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Just found the pics i was looking for irving:
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Lee, is that an IBM 'niipple' (touch mouse) being used as a touch sensor?
Any idea how accurate it is? (ie. repeatability etc.)
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BillTodd
Lee, is that an IBM 'niipple' (touch mouse) being used as a touch sensor?
Any idea how accurate it is? (ie. repeatability etc.)
not huge I'd imagine..., although the long probe improves. my concern would be how consistent the 4 switches are relative to each other...
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Yes it is, ill need to have a dig on the zone to find the Thread the guy started about using it. Cant remember all the details but i think he did get it going and was using it..
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Hi guys, here is the link to the guys thread on the zone: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showthread.php?t=51079
What i also liked about this setup was that you could use it on wood and so on, gaging on presure rather then a "completed cicuit".