Haas is bringing out a desktop cnc mill, Get a Sneak Peek!

Looks remarkably like one of the chinese machines to me, the omni mini maybe: https://m.alibaba.com/product/601949...nc-router.html

Get a Sneak Peek! The Haas Desktop Mill is Coming Soon! - Haas Automation, Inc.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaPZEDBfXCE

Must say after seeing the title and then the Haas name I was a little disappointed in what was unveiled, he says "we've been developing" and "our engineers designed the desktop mill" but I don't see anything new or different to the typical as linked above...

What did these amateur eyes overlook ?

Surely they have the power in every sense of the word to deliver something of a higher calibre ☹️

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Originally Posted by Lee Roberts

What did these amateur eyes overlook ?

Surely they have the power in every sense of the word to deliver something of a higher calibre ☹️

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Lee if it wasn't for the fact Santa's just been I'd be wondering if it was April.? . . . This would bea fooking great Aprill fool, because it truely is a Joke. Can't believe what I've just watched.

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Originally Posted by JAZZCNC

Lee if it wasn't for the fact Santa's just been I'd be wondering if it was April.? . . . This would bea fooking great Aprill fool, because it truely is a Joke. Can't believe what I've just watched.

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Snap! In my view all this is about is trying to get the younger generation familiar with a Haas controller so the new generation want to operate Hass controlled machines because that's what they are familiar with! I see it as a simple cheap way into training and marketing ploy for Haas controllers and no more.

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Snap! In my view all this is about is trying to get the younger generation familiar with a Haas controller so the new generation want to operate Hass controlled machines because that's what they are familiar with! I see it as a simple cheap way into training and marketing ploy for Haas controllers and no more.

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Thats's exactly why they are doing this.! . . . But it will backfire on them because while Haas are marketing it for use with soft materials the users will not stop at that and try to cut harder materials, then the true nature of the beast will rear it's ugly head.

To me the idea is a good one but Haas will regret the choice of using Chinese Crap.

Haasholes - it surely is a chinese machine in a purty box. It can machine plastics and wax and probably marzipan and chocolate too.

What have I just watched?

I guess they've got to make money to pay for their F1 team some how, especially since their co-sponsor has been shown to be a sham...

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What have I just watched?

I guess they've got to make money to pay for their F1 team some how, especially since their co-sponsor has been shown to be a sham...

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By a sham Co-sponsor, you must be meaning Ferrari. . .Lol

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By a sham Co-sponsor, you must be meaning Ferrari. . .Lol

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:-)
No, the Rich Energy shysters.
Their logo was removed quite quickly after they lost their trademark case against Whyte - https://whyte.bike/pages/stag

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:-)
No, the Rich Energy shysters.
Their logo was removed quite quickly after they lost their trademark case against Whyte - https://whyte.bike/pages/stag

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Didn't know about this but I had spotted the Whyte Logo as I have a Whyte 46 and just thought Whyte bikes sponsored the team.!

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Didn't know about this but I had spotted the Whyte Logo as I have a Whyte 46 and just thought Whyte bikes sponsored the team.!

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The guy behind Rich Energy was quite a character.
I had a chat to Whyte's marketing guy at an event after the court case, and it's cost them well into 6 figures, but IIRC they can only claim either 25 or 50k in costs back, but they don't expect to see a penny. Last I heard Rich Energy had been 'sold' to a company that specialises in preparing companies for insolvency.

The consensus was the guy behind Rich Energy was playing everybody off against each other to establish the brand.
He got a million tins made*.
He went to the supermarkets saying that this will be the big new drink, as they've got a big sponsorship deal about to be signed.
He's then gone to Haas saying he's got customers lined up, and they've had a million tins produced.
Hass have agreed to the sponsorship.
He's then gone back to the supermarkets and said they've got a big international sponsorship deal.

Unfortunately, by that point, the court case was well known about, so rather than write off the million tins he'd had 'produced', he thought Whyte would rollover and not defend their trademark, and when's that not happened, his only option was to lie about the source of the logo.

*Apparently the million tins do/did exist, so he could legally make the claim over a million tins have been made, It's just that they were never actually filled..

I thought a 'mill' had the advantage of extreme rigidity compared to a gantry router while a gantry router had the advantage of a much larger work envelope compared to a mill. This 'mill' appears to have the dissadvantages of both.

Kit

Haas are about the money, not so much the quality.
The only thing Haas about it will be the price of any spare parts which will have had the OEM ID removed and replaced with a Haas part number along with a Haas appropriate price tag! :D

Magicniner, you are such a cynic :devilish:

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I thought a 'mill' had the advantage of extreme rigidity compared to a gantry router while a gantry router had the advantage of a much larger work envelope compared to a mill. This 'mill' appears to have the dissadvantages of both.

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Just wait for the influx of youtube videos about how good this type of 'mill' is :jaded:

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Originally Posted by m_c

Magicniner, you are such a cynic :devilish:

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Ya Think? :D
At least with it being a Haas if there's a version which comes with a tool changer it will probably come off easily, though usually unexpectedly! ;-)

Can this HAAS CSMD CONTROL Simulator be used to control our CNC machines?
Is available separately for 2.5k$ and seems to be used to drive this crap Chinese scratcher
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HAAS-CSMD...wAAOSweHtd6xN8

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Can this HAAS CSMD CONTROL Simulator be used to control our CNC machines?
Is available separately for 2.5k$ and seems to be used to drive this crap Chinese scratcher
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HAAS-CSMD...wAAOSweHtd6xN8

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Very much doubt it. It's just a simulator, doubt it's got a Motion controller in it, so it won't connect to anything. The Chinese rubbish they connect to will have a motion controller which will cost another 2.5K.!!

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Originally Posted by JAZZCNC

Very much doubt it. It's just a simulator, doubt it's got a Motion controller in it, so it won't connect to anything. The Chinese rubbish they connect to will have a motion controller which will cost another 2.5K.!!

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Thanks Dean
Just in case I asked seller - will update post with his answer.

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Originally Posted by Tom J

Thanks Dean
Just in case I asked seller - will update post with his answer.

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The answer is that you can't control a machine from a 2.5k Haas simulator, it does not have the same internals as a Haas controller.