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i am using the uc300 eth controller with ucbb-1 breakout board,, after removing the chinene controller and updating to uccnc,,i have slowly gotten everything working except the spindel, the vfd connection i just cant get my head around, i have attached pictures of the wired setup of the chinese controller and the vdf,,i need to know how to connect the 5 wires coming from the vfd to the new controller and b.o.b.
any help would be much appreciated.
What make of BOB is it.? or give a better close up picture
its a ucbb-1 bob from cnc drive.com , the makers of uccnc,,
Ok well, I've never used this BOB before so I could be wrong but I've had a quick look and I don't think you can take the Analog Outputs from the Uc300 through this BOB. It doesn't have a 16 pin Analog connector.? This means you cannot control the Speed from this BOB. You could take it directly from the Uc300 Analog connector but that's not advised as they are not Isolated.
I'm not into electronics and don't know if it's possible to use the Outputs on the UCBB for analog but you'd still need to hack the DB26 cable and plug into the DB16 Analog connector on the UC300. I would email them and ask before going further.
Regards the Start/Stop and Forward/Reverse then you can connect directly to the Outputs on the BOB but this will mean Tieing the DCM (common Gnd) on the VFD to the 24V PSU Gnd.
Personally I don't like doing this because if anything happens to VFD or Vise reverse the BOB they can feed back into each other and do damage.
I would use relays to control the VFD On/Off and just use the outputs to turn these relays on/off. Because the UCBB doesn't provide relays then you will need external relays with diodes, one for each direction.
Sorry, I can't help much more than that. It's a very basic BOB.
Also, note that you will only need to use 4 of those wires on the VFD. The Red wire doesn't need to be used with the Uc300, all it was doing was supplying the 10V speed ref voltage to the old controller. The Uc300 generates it's own 10V Ref voltage.
I'd be looking at the RS485/ModBus controller (available for UCCNC and Mach3) - at least to see if it's viable for your VFD. It avoids some of the problems with analogue noise, linearity, etc.
There are a few ways to use the UC300ETH for VFD speed control - the usual PWM output on the more typical BoBs, the analogue output that Jazz covered, as well as the above suggestion to disregard it altogether.
I've fit 100's of Vfd's with analog speed control and never do I have any troubles with noise, even the linearity is acceptable for most machines. I think the only reason I'd fit Modbus is if I wanted long wire runs and slightly finer speed control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Doddy
But like you say if going to have to buy some board etc to get speed control then RS485 would be a sensible choice. It just seems to be waste money when the controller already provides Analog Output.!
Is the following correct, I can connect the voltage in, on the vdf to the 10v output on the analog port on the controller,,, then connect the acm to the ground pin on the analog port,,,,,,,, the other two wires I connect to the Bob,,, 1 to an output for direction the other th the 24v ground connection?,,, I am new to all this,,, I've managed to get everything else working except the spindle,,, fingers crossed, hopefully get it sorted
Depends on the VFD, often VFD as 2 sources for controlling the speed, Voltage or Current. usually marked V1 or A1 You want V1 for voltage and the Gnd goes to ACM.Quote:
Originally Posted by voyager1972
The other two wires you speak of will be for Run (Forward) and these are usually sent through a relay. They often come from FOR and DCM(gnd).
You can use them directly with the Outputs but you will need to tie the DCM to the Gnd of DC source you are powering the controller with.
Personally I'd use the output to turn on a relay.!
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here are the videos that show that the spindle does not turn
Attachment 30866
NB : it turns perfectly but, without noise, everything is perfect
here are the videos that show that the spindle does not turnAttachment 30867
NB:it turns perfectly but, without noise, everything is perfect
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Either send a pwm signal from a ucbb output- then put this signal into a pwm to analog converter- then that goes into vfd.
Or do what I've done. An idc16 cable from analog port on uc300 into an idc16 pin terminal breakout block. Then connect this to vd avi/gnd and use the uc300 analog port for control in uccnc.
thanks for the reply , do you have any images of the setup ?