Newbee looking for advice

[JAZZCNC]

1. what sort of torque or power will the motors need to rip half inch wood at a reasonable speed while leaving room to re-purpose as speedy motors for plasma - any suggestions please
2. id rather buy a kit form motor/driver set for the four axis like you see on ebay, but thats why they're on ebay right?
3. the lead screws or ballscrews is a definite advisory item which i am told that will lend efficiency to the motors?

#1 3nm motor stepper motor will do everything you need for machien this size but that's not what will limit your DOC it's the spindle and the strength of the machine. Also Chip clearence is required for large depth of cut else you'll get burning and excess tool wear.
Also there's more to stepper than just Nm size. Drive quality and Voltage they are run plays huge part in performance.

#2 Waste of money. For good machine you need balanced system and these kits don't offer this. There more than just power to consider when buying steppers. The spec of the stepper affects the Voltage required. Motors with high inductance will require much higher voltage to get the same speed and torque as lower inductance motors.
Voltage plays key part in the speed and to some degree torque you'll get from motor. These kits have Crap drives with low voltage supplies with high inductance motors. Hence why there cheap.!

#3 Forget lead screw they will be nothing but hassle. Ballscrews from china are cheap and easy got so not worth not buying. There's no comparison between them it's no brainer.

#4 I know there's no 4 but i'll throw this in for free.
Don't use twin motors drive the screws with belt drive connecting them together. Saves on money and much more reliable, completely removes any chance of racking.

[dandy]

hey jazzcnc thanks for your input

i am keen to get started with my project so will ask some more advice,

do you know a supplier for ballscrews, like you say china is cheap maybe you have used someone there? also some advice on the drivers, i was looking to gt seperate drivers rather than a single board because when i burn one i can replace one as opposed to 3 or 4.

your suggestion on the belt driven x axis is interesting, didnt really consider this becuse im afraid of getting it wrapped around my fingers or even my face! also the design scope doesnt allow for this unless i change direction using pulleys at 90degrees directly below the screws which incidently will take care of the belt timing.


again thanks jazz

[JAZZCNC]

There are many on Ali express but Fred Lee at BST automation is the one I'd recommend and use often.

Drives then you want Digital drives the ones I'd recommend are Leadshine AM882 but if your on Budget then Leadshine DM856 are ok drives. Both are 80V drives which means you can run motors safely around 65Vdc without stressing the drives or heating the motors excessively.

Regards the belt drive then your fears are easily solved.? Keep fingers and face out of the buggers.!! However sensible idea is to cover them. Also they will normaly be at the rear so your not likely to get in your face or fingers.

Regards fitting then can't say unless you show the design. Not sure what your meaning or thinking by belt timing.? There is no timing invloved.

[dandy]

yeah your right jazz, its hard to visualize your dead right there, so im gonna get some drawing program and get it down on paper.
looking at your recommendations has given me a bit of a reality check, its gonna cost more than 50 bucks and a few lengths of steel anit it!!!

well someone gotta keep them in business.

drawings to follow up........

soon........
ish........

[dandy]

how do i get this picture big enough to see???????????

[Clive S]

how do i get this picture big enough to see???????????

it is big enough to see if you double click on it. What are you going to use this for?

[dandy]

im hoping to get this to slot into my bench when needed, do a bit of routing, like signs and name plates and house numbers and so on, and when its in the way i can take it out, put it on the shelf - or in the bin and be done with it. TBH if im really honest i dont really know. but i want to build a cnc

[dandy]

ho right its a thumbnail so just click on it.........


so the trasparent like boxes were my original thought of twin motors driving the screws, but as pointed out by jazzcnc a single motor with a belt running the two screws would be a better option. Now looking at it i would need a few extra pulleys because i want this belt outta the way hidden in the box section, nice and neat, like a pro who knows exactly what needs doing right!!!!
........any comments greatly appreciated as its my first build.

the gantry will be riding along the x supported by bearings i have lying around which will be driven by the screws through slots in the x(in red in the thumby thing for the feckless incompetent wannabees who keep asking for constant advice and inspiration and general nappy changing) , now the footprint for the gantry isnt quite complete, infact scale is out the window here its just concept like a guy in his shed out of earshot from the missus and nothing to do but build (or try to) (or think to try to) a cnc system.

im still thinking on leads for the x purely so i can weld straight to the nuts, no fuss with the bare minimum expense just to prove test, after which i can replace with suggested ballscrews and use said leadscrews for shelf supports............... pictures to follow

of course the z is missing as its far beyond comprehension right now.

the reason it is designed like this is because i want it to drop into slots i am yet to cut out of my bench and clamp into place, the bench coincidentally doubles up as a table saw, but you dont want to go there..... no yet.......not with a 24" blade,

the question really is does the belt fit the design?


so TIA for any comments or questions,