Building a plasma table, need advice.

[JAZZCNC]

Dean has spent a lot of time providing me with help that has enabled me to go from an absolute newbie who had never touched a machine to someone who is now running and maintaining their own 8x4 cnc router in a production environment. Even upgrading the machine from a DSP to CS-Labs controller which was made so much easier (possible) with Deans assistance.

Well thanks for the praise but I can only point you in right direction you still have to do it so pat yourself on back not me.

Why help people who cannot be bothered to help themselves especially when they approach you with a snot nosed 'I want everything given to me as I don't want to do any hard work myself' attitude!

While your correct and I agree with you on this I have to say that understand where this lad is coming from. He just wants info on where to buy because thinks knows what he needs.

Where he went wrong was that WE know he doesn't know what thinks he knows but he's soon to know that knows far less than what WE know. So he'll quickly know is shity attitude learnt him that what he doesn't know but WE know and won't now tell has cost him lot of wasted money.!!

So even thou he doesn't know it we are learning him.!! . . . . . . . Shame it's not what he needs to Know for good Cnc machine. . Lol

[superclarkey]

Lol, if you guys just put as much effort into helping me as you do bitching I'll would have it build by now :-p

I know enough that I knew I should ask for some help, when you are not helped with constructive information you get on and do it yourself, simples :-)

[JAZZCNC]

Lol, if you guys just put as much effort into helping me as you do bitching I'll would have it build by now :-p

I know enough that I knew I should ask for some help, when you are not helped with constructive information you get on and do it yourself, simples :-)

Idiot.!! . . . I've helped more people than you have had hot dinners build great machines with advise on every thing from design to where and what to buy with the only difference between them and you is they had enough respect to wait until suited me to reply or ask directly in respectful manner.
Same goes for many others on here who more than willing to dish out valuable advise provided little respect is shown.

Crack on do it your self and pay the price of learning. Hopefully you won't learn the hard way but I suspect not.

[superclarkey]

I'm 33, so lets say I started having hot dinners when i was like 3ish, and I'm fat, so I tend to have allot of hot meals, so lets say around 25,000 meals, thats really impressive if you've helped that many people :) Respect

You speak of respect as the first word you say to me is "idiot" lol, I've not personally attacked anyone on here, nor would I, I don't know you.. :P

[m_c]

Can somebody just ban the waste of bandwidth and save them the embarrassment of looking like an even bigger idiot?

BTW, Jazz's first word wasn't "idiot". He wrote a nice post highlighting how you should ask in a less ignorant way, but instead you still acted like a selfish brat who's launched all his toys and is still trying to blame everyone else.

[JAZZCNC]

You speak of respect as the first word you say to me is "idiot" lol, I've not personally attacked anyone on here, nor would I, I don't know you.. :P

Ok I'll give you that could be taken that way but won't appologise for it. Reason being it was more statement than attack and the first thing that popped into my head when saw your post and has everyone here's know I'll always tell it the way I see it.!! . . . . Your bad attitude was very idiot like.

Oh and your still probably few 1000's meals behind those i've helped which you won't be one of. . .

[superclarkey]

Are you saying you don't want a slice of the im sorry cake I'm baking?

[Lee Roberts]

I didn't say I didn't have the time to build it, but didn't want to start from scratch researching every single aspect l if people can offer help in the right direction.

Nor did I, I offered the right direction, you missed it.

I know in mechanically terms what is required and I don't know where the best place is to get the parts so was again hoping for advice.

You should/could have said that's what you wanted, I'm not a mind reader.

there has to be common parts people use or software people thing is the best etc.

i wanted experienced advice, reading people's blogs where they are learning them selfs also doesn't mean it's the best way of going about things etc, how do I know who is doing it right or wrong? I don't know enough to make an educated desision right now, so means I have to learn everything so that I can form that opinion.

Yea there is, you can see them repeatedly shown and discussed in the build logs of others, you just have to look, read, then look again, obvious I know.

I pointed you to it, you missed it.

Typically people running a build log have done the learning already, have a plan of action and so on. Some of the learning takes place in the other non build log discussions I pointed you to, when they start doing something wrong, experienced advice gets posted to help them in the right direction.

Bummer, I guess your never going to be in a postion to form that opinion then, what with you not having the time to research everything, so you can learn everything.

i was pointed to this forum and maybe I expected that I would be offered some advice, but being told to basically go do a "search" or "buy one new" wasn't what I needed to hear lol (kinda obvious :-p )

You got what you expected, the problem was in your request, it was vague, contradictory, confused. As such I gave you what I could based on what you gave me, sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear but the advice is there, you missed it.

thanks anyways, i won't give up on this just looks like I'll have to do it the hard way which I was trying to avoid :-)

Np, good you shouldn't give up, it can be fun and rewarding but like I said, requires investment.

I asked for advice not a hug lol its a typical non helpful forum response "google it" instead of actually helping, I have already done allot of the ground work just wanted to know best places to look for stuff, lol, even purchased the hypertherm 45.

i help people each day, and give allot of my own person time to help people, i try and educate and give sound advice, that's what I joined a forum like this for, I didn't realise I had to work it all out first then ask about it hehe

anyways sorry I posted asking, the forum that sent me he was so helpful and advice was great, so I'll get my coat :-)

How rude! and even more full of confusion then your first post, like i said above, you got out, what you put in, if "google it" is the definition you would put on what I offered you as advice, then you wont be getting any more help from me! Try looking deeper than just the words I used.

Yea so do I, so do allot of us here, what do you want a hug?, your lucky you even got a reply from me given my life at the moment and here you are talking about my reply like you even know me and that others cant read it for themselves, who do you think you are rubbishing my effort like that.

So much for "greatly appreciated".

If you've done all the so called groundwork, what advice exactly is it your looking for? Ohh wait you said, you just need purchasing advice, DOH! if only your first post had said that to start with!!!

I cant remember your exact wording of your post here but to me it smacked of tell me what to buy and where because I cant be bothered to do any research.

Not a single mention of buying or purchasing in it Neil, if only it had of been that clear.

your right though I should have outlined how much I already knew and that I wasn't looking for the basics etc, just looking to start buying the bits and what to buy

I cant understand why you didn't if that's all you needed, would have been so much easier.

when you are not helped with constructive information

I hope you plasma right through the main structure of the machine and it ends up as a pile of sections on the floor

.Me

[JAZZCNC]

Are you saying you don't want a slice of the im sorry cake I'm baking?

Nope sorry I'm not bought that cheaply, now throw in a few Guiness and I might be persuaded to join you.!! . . . I'll Still tell you F@&£ All like. .

[Clive S]

Lol, if you guys just put as much effort into helping me as you do bitching I'll would have it build by now :-p

If I was you I would take a step back and think about things I for one did not see your first post as I do tend to read every post on here. I have noticed though that you have edited it to say " never mind" and complained that you had not had any reply. People don't always have the time and their time is given freely so you have to wait sometimes.

Why don't you start again and if you have a machine put some pics up etc. How can anybody answer questions if you don't give some specs for the machine and what you are trying to achieve. As have been said this is my my opinion the best forum around for helping others and getting good advise. Of course you have to do a bit of work with reading the forum to find the right people that have the relevant experience for the questions you ask.