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    Quote Originally Posted by John S View Post
    If you think Vectric is bad then price up Artcam.
    Autodesk bought Delcam a few years ago, and just released their new version of ArtCAM.
    Since it's now subscription based, it's actually quite affordable. Less than 1/5 the cost of Aspire per year, with comparable features.
    Unless you go with the Pro version which is still crazy expensive.
    Gerry
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    What ever the affordability of Vectric products compared to the rest of the market is I still don't see that a 15% rise in prices (on some products more/less on others) is reasonable.

    Aspire has gone up by £205
    Vcarve Pro by £70
    Vcarve Desktop by £40
    Cut2D Pro by £50
    Cut2D Desktop by £15
    Cut3d by £35
    PhotoVCarve by £15

    As I said the company is based in the UK saying the UK price has gone up because of the decrease in the value of the pound is disingenuous.

    If the pound falls then the US price should be going down not putting the UK price up, I imagine that if the pound does recover (given the present climate highly unlikely) in value they will not be reducing the UK price in fact they may even use it as a reason to put up the US price.

    Obviously they can do what they want with their product that doesn't need stating but it seems greedy from my perspective.

    Maybe I should write my own product if anyone is experienced enough to actually do it then I guess I am but then again 3 years+ to do it is not particularly attractive

    Ho hum...

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    Subscription is only cheap compared to purchase when they've started by supplying a broken product and you need the fixes, and the fixes for the fixes................

    - ;-)
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    Where I find Vectric to be good is the speed you can do something in it.
    Last night I programmed some Ferrari striker plates up, look simple but there are actually three depths. Already had a DXF file so just import, select tools and then select the 4 operations. Holes, pocket I, sub-pocket 2, and OD.
    Took me all of 15 minutes to do this,. In any other program I have it would have taken twice or even 3 times as long so cost per part is far less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Subscription is only cheap compared to purchase when they've started by supplying a broken product and you need the fixes, and the fixes for the fixes................

    - ;-)
    Generally, yes, this is true.

    But, consier that Aspire is US $2000.
    ArtCAM, with comparable features, is $360/year.

    Roughly, every 2-3 years, an Aspire upgrade is $400.

    After 5 years, you'll have paid $1800 for ArtCAM, and always have a current version.

    To remain current after 5 years with Aspire, you'll have paid more than 50% ($1000) more.
    IF you can't afford the up front price of Aspire, you can get into ArtCAM with a much smaller up front investment. And it would be about 8-9 years before it actually became more expensive.

    I've heard that this version of ArtCAM is comparable to the older ArtCAM Insignia, but I'm not sure.
    Looking at the feature list, it would seem that Aspire might have a few things that ArtCAM doesn't, and ArtCAM may have some features that Aspire doesn't.
    Gerry
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    The original pre Autocad buy out Artcam was written by Mark Moran and Tony McKenzie who then went on to start Vectric.

    Vectric incidentally has won the Queens Award for industry two years on the trot.

    Not sure how the subscription service for Artcam works as regards copies and being online but I have a copy of VCP on about 4 machines here, all on the same licence and only one machine can get on the net.
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    I have VCarve Desktop and absolutely love it. Intuitive and very easy to use. My only beef with the software, apart from the cost, is it being limited to 625 mm x 625 mm jobs. It also lacks any 3D modelling ability; so you can't draw or create your own 2D to 3D shapes. For that I'd need to upgrade to Aspire, but there's no way I could justify spending £1,500 on it.
    Bought a Chinese 6040...if only I'd known better :(

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    So i think we all agree they need to be punished . I hope you all know how to use google and search for "getintopc" and search there the relevant section.
    Last edited by Boyan Silyavski; 06-10-2016 at 12:12 PM.
    project 1 , 2, Dust Shoe ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ger21 View Post
    Generally, yes, this is true.

    But, consier that Aspire is US $2000.
    ArtCAM, with comparable features, is $360/year............
    I actually use Artcam at the moment and wonderful though it is it exceeds my present requirements and it is £54 a month so £648 a year convert that back to US dollars and it would be $824.

    looks like we loose again in the UK Brexit was such a good idea wasn't it, stuffed our currency :(

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    If you pay by the year, you save 33%.
    In the US, ArtCAM is $45/month, but only $360 if you pay for a year. They also have 2 and 3 year subscriptions that lower the price a little more, 3 years for $970.
    Gerry
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