Thread: What Limit Switches?
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13-12-2016 #21
That's actually a bit of a generalisation, as it depends on exactly how you're powering things. I keep meaning to do a post on the why and how the problem can be mitigated to a certain extent.
Regardless, IMO limit switches should always be fail safe I.e. NC, as you want to minimise the risk of a wiring fault causing the switch detection to fail.
Plus, magnetic switches on something that could potentially be machining steel?Avoiding the rubbish customer service from AluminiumWarehouse since July '13.
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13-12-2016 #22
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13-12-2016 #23
I see Hall effect switches mentioned more in US sites than UK. I'm not sure why you would use these rather than the Chinese-sourced proximity switches, unless you are in an environment where there is a lot of metal around and powerful magnet operation is desirable to avoid false triggering. For example, the proximity switches run natively on 24V. Is it really that there is a strong "not from China" feeling in the US rather than any pure technical reason? Just curious - I've a box of proximity switches in the workshop that I am using, so I've already made my design decision
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13-12-2016 #24
No Brainer to me Chaz.? . . . .The IP-A gives abilty to Home To Index so use it because will be superior to most SW and very repeatable.
Also means don't need expensive switches for there repeatabilty/reliabilty. Any decent Mechanical SW will work because all you doing is triggering the point Servo searches for the Index pulse.
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13-12-2016 #25
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14-12-2016 #26
I am not (yet) homing on servo index w. CSMIO-IP-S-lathe, but ..
based on everything, I expect it to work as well as everything else so far, with some (major) issues sometimes.
I use 1:3 belt drive on the servo spindle.
The CSMIO-IP-S, mach3, lathe, driver cannot understand a transmission, thus will home to next 1:3 limit switch from the encoder.
With "position on spindle" or something similar.
Nothing wrong with it, just makes it impossible to get C axis.
For the time being, fttb,
any overrun is dangerous, potentially really fast (0.05-0.5 secs to crash), so..
For now, I use switches similar to the pics at start of thread.
They look good, are import, and are chinese copies badly made of a somewhat-decent industrial switch from omron (siemens, et al).
My current mechanical switches are not accurate, and don´t repeat well.
Afaik, afai can see, they cannot really fail to "break" on limits, thus they are ok as low-cost limit switches that look good.
My ongoing path will be;..
maintain the mechanical switches, always.
Independent.
They wont catch any crashes, these will come from the servo signals/overload, but usually, I think, with already (some) damage done.
Idea is hw limits prevent system over-run in sw /programming errors.
Both exist.
Imo. Ime.
With Csmio.
With M3.
In very, very, very rare cases it is possible for the cp to move "wrong" - seemingly forever at lowish rate (might be feed, limited feed, just don´t know).
I don´t know why.
Tracking error / load vs commanded path;
Medium-term (3-30 months), I even hope to catch this potential crash-error problem with a tracker system from the servo hw signal in-pos or near-pos.
This means, when running a repeated program, if the load exceeds a given level, or any servo drive has too much (little) load at that point, the program stops.
This would mean perfect "lights-out" running with near zero risk.
Home:
Index from z/ ie encoder, or separate opticals.
Separate opticals are cheap, easy, very very accurate.
Hw optical switches can do 0-1-2 microns, for 20$ or so, plus bits.
But encoder opticals can do 0.4 um, for 0$, and much better reliability.
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14-12-2016 #27
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