As a newbie to this site I have to say that I wold have expected a little more advice from some more experienced members. You seem very quick to tell us what is rubbish, but refuse to help us find a good quality off the shelf unit.

You have the benefit of knowledge why not share it. I am looking for a sub 10k machine. Jazz you did in one thread mention Excel CNC but I am unable to get any of their web pages to open.

So I am sure I speak for many people when I ask for some help and advice on what is good rather than what is not.

Thanks