Hi Mysticblue

I understand your point and it has been made before by new members. Somehow the new member interprets silence as ‘holding out’ and comments / observations of commercial machines as just a list of negatives.

The truth is that this site is mostly made of DIY builders who build for fun or have made a machine for use in a small business. People who just want to buy a fair machine and get back to business don’t stay in the forum for long as that is not really their interest. So there are not lots of guys waiting here to give out that kind of advice, sorry.

Maybe there are user forums for the machines you are considering that would be better suited?

On the other hand if you decide to build something I don’t think you will find a better place to ask for advice and we will set aside the bumpy introduction.

Hope this helps.