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    I would expect the NE555 can not provide enough current to operate the
    solenoid valve without the addition of a high gain power transistor
    like the TIP122
    the 1N4001 across the coil is the flyback suppressor diode
    when the transistor is switched on the diode is reverse biased so it does not conduct
    when the transistor switches off a large back emf is produced
    the diode provides a path for the current to flow instead of
    driving the transistors collector more positive than the positive supply

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    John
    Last edited by john swift; 29-04-2017 at 01:59 PM.

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    Cheers John,

    I spotted this online earlier:

    http://www.robotshop.com/uk/adjustab...ering-kit.html

    Might do the trick, although the output voltage is 24v as opposed to the 12v the solenoid wants.

    Cheers for the additions to the diagram, I'll post my results if I make one..!

    Wal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wal View Post
    Cheers John,

    I spotted this online earlier:

    http://www.robotshop.com/uk/adjustab...ering-kit.html

    Might do the trick, although the output voltage is 24v as opposed to the 12v the solenoid wants.

    Cheers for the additions to the diagram, I'll post my results if I make one..!

    Wal.
    Wal See your email. It is the contacts that are rated at 24v 3A
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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    Lives in Stockport, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 15-12-2024 Has been a member for 9-10 years. Has a total post count of 491. Received thanks 71 times, giving thanks to others 29 times.
    Cheers Clive..!

    That's me being dumb again...! If it helps anyone else reading this:

    The output is the relay contacts RATED at 24V 3A and not outputting anything. ie the relay is just a switch that changes state. So the control circuit runs off 12V and you can run the air valve off 12v through the relay.


    Thanks again Clive!

    Wal.

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    Hi Wal

    the Velleman kit should make it easier

    looking at the circuit it runs of a 12V supply - ideal for your solenoid valve (don't forget to add the diode across the coil)

    MK111 kit
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    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by john swift View Post
    I would expect the NE555 can not provide enough current to operate the
    solenoid valve without the addition of a high gain power transistor

    John
    The 555 can source or sink up to 200mA, so should be OK to operate most relays directly. The 555 is a useful timer chip, but I tend to use arduinos, especially for really long delays.

    Cheers,

    Rob

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    Quote Originally Posted by cropwell View Post
    The 555 can source or sink up to 200mA, so should be OK to operate most relays directly. The 555 is a useful timer chip, but I tend to use arduinos, especially for really long delays.

    Cheers,

    Rob
    ...but 12V 6.5W is over 500mA, so if he is going to use the solenoid on the picture he needs a transistor, or a small relay in between the valve and the 555. The 555 is OK for small relays but not for solenoids.
    Last edited by A_Camera; 02-05-2017 at 12:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A_Camera View Post
    ...but 12V 6.5W is over 500mA, so if he is going to use the solenoid on the picture he needs a transistor, or a small relay in between the valve and the 555. The 555 is OK for small relays but not for solenoids.
    I did not mention a solenoid

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    Lives in Stockport, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 15-12-2024 Has been a member for 9-10 years. Has a total post count of 491. Received thanks 71 times, giving thanks to others 29 times.
    Right, got this made now. It's flung together into an empty air-rifle pellet tin I had lying about, but it seems to work alright...

    I eventually used this circuit.

    ...you can get essentially the same thing for half the price here - I assumed at the higher price that this was pre-soldered - it wasn't..! The two pots that control the interval/pulse are a bit sensitive, but otherwise it's a decent enough kit and very easy to put together. I didn't need the fly-back diode after all.

    Thanks to Clive for suggesting the switch to over-ride the circuit and keep the air on continuously - useful and pretty much a necessity..!

    Here's a vid of it in action:



    And for fellow electronics dunces, here's a diagram of how it went together:

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    Glad you have it fixed up and running Wal. Have you put a grommet around the red/black wires out of the tin ? to stop chaffing.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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