. .
Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Finish the power supply, thanks everyone for the help.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	30709821_2077342929213695_8405312996124917760_n.jpg 
Views:	418 
Size:	187.3 KB 
ID:	24063
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	30714117_2077030302578291_471645803476156416_n.jpg 
Views:	407 
Size:	59.4 KB 
ID:	24064
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	30703894_2076846262596695_139925915630043136_n.jpg 
Views:	400 
Size:	78.0 KB 
ID:	24065
    Last edited by Nickhofen; 14-07-2018 at 07:44 AM.

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to Nickhofen For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Brill

    It is good practise to not to daisy chain the 70V across each drive ie. use separate power leads from each drive to a common block and then connect the PS to the block. This ensures you are not getting a volt drop to each drive from the first one.
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

  4. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Clive S For This Useful Post:


  5. #3
    Thanks Clive, I will keep this in mind!!!

  6. #4
    m_c's Avatar
    Lives in East Lothian, United Kingdom. Current Activity: Viewing Forum Superstar, has done so much to help others, they deserve a medal. Has a total post count of 2,969. Received thanks 368 times, giving thanks to others 9 times.
    Quote Originally Posted by Clive S View Post
    Brill

    It is good practise to not to daisy chain the 70V across each drive ie. use separate power leads from each drive to a common block and then connect the PS to the block. This ensures you are not getting a volt drop to each drive from the first one.
    I'm going to engage pedant mode for a moment.
    It's not to do with volt drop, it's mostly to do with the risk of harmonics.
    Stepper drivers are essentially a complex switched mode power supply, which means they don't draw a constant current, they're constantly switching at high speed. If you place multiple of these on the same wire, then you risk harmonics, which is where multiple spikes at the same time lead to high voltage spikes, which can destroy electronics very quickly, and in extreme cases will burn out the wiring, even though the total current may be well within the current limit of the wiring.

    Off course the latest drivers are far more likely to contain some internal filtering to help avoid noise being propagated into the supply, as part of them meeting various approvals, which should avoid any harmonic problems.

    Avoiding daisy chaining also helps minimise any potential damage from a failed connection, as a connection failure during deceleration is very likely to result in an overvoltage failure, with resultant smoke release from drives. By having them wired direct, the worst case is one drive fails, but if daisy chained, you risk every drive after the bad connection failing.


    Personally, I always wire drives directly to the main smoothing capacitor, as it avoids having any more connections in the wiring than needed.
    Avoiding the rubbish customer service from AluminiumWarehouse since July '13.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to m_c For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    That's super tidy, I see you went DC in the end. What voltage output transformer is it? 50v?

    I wired the transformer to a 13 amp light style switch and then my VFD and water pump to another switch and both of them are wired from the emergency stop.

    This way I can easily turn the transformer on/off and if the vfd is powered the water pump is on. I have both switches and the emergency stop at the front of the machine for easy access in a row.

    If I hit the emergency stop it kills power to both the steppers and the vfd, I still have to work out how to get it to trigger an estop on the pc but it's good enough for me at the moment.
    Last edited by Desertboy; 15-04-2018 at 01:36 PM.
    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/10880...60cm-work-area My first CNC build WIP 120cm*80cm

    If you didn't buy it from China the company you bought it from did ;)

  9. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertboy View Post
    I still have to work out how to get it to trigger an estop on the pc but it's good enough for me at the moment.
    Just use a relay with a 230VAC coil.

  10. #7
    Thank you both for the idea, any wiring diagram will be helpful.
    Desertboy you are right it is a 50V output transformer.
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	30705777_2076845855930069_7205705506248196096_n.jpg 
Views:	230 
Size:	79.6 KB 
ID:	24070

  11. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertboy View Post
    That's super tidy, I see you went DC in the end. What voltage output transformer is it? 50v?

    I wired the transformer to a 13 amp light style switch and then my VFD and water pump to another switch and both of them are wired from the emergency stop.

    This way I can easily turn the transformer on/off and if the vfd is powered the water pump is on. I have both switches and the emergency stop at the front of the machine for easy access in a row.

    If I hit the emergency stop it kills power to both the steppers and the vfd, I still have to work out how to get it to trigger an estop on the pc but it's good enough for me at the moment.
    I went DC because I have two AM 882 and waiting for other two AM882h to come,so DC was one way road....
    Last edited by Nickhofen; 16-04-2018 at 04:13 AM.

  12. #9
    Quote Originally Posted by Nickhofen View Post
    Finish the power supply, thanks everyone for the help.
    Neat layout.

    Minor observation:-

    It can be a good idea to wire a bleed resistor across the output - nothing too big, but enough that you're not holding a substantial and dangerous charge long after removing the power.

    Also, there's some concern with the use of screw terminals particularly with high-current circuits and when vibration may be present that the screws can loosen over time.

  13. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by Doddy View Post
    Neat layout.

    Minor observation:-

    It can be a good idea to wire a bleed resistor across the output - nothing too big, but enough that you're not holding a substantial and dangerous charge long after removing the power.

    Also, there's some concern with the use of screw terminals particularly with high-current circuits and when vibration may be present that the screws can loosen over time.
    Thanks for the observation ,can you point me a value for the resistance and how many watt it should be? I have some laying around here at home.I will change the terminas as soon as the other ones come with the mail.

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. cnc 4axis hot wire mach3;
    By maikonesk in forum Hotwire Cutting Machines
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 07-08-2015, 02:15 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •