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  1. My understanding is that because you are buying directly from China, then it can be imported without a CE mark, but if i were to import it and then sell it from within the EU, i would be breaking the law.
    So if you buy it and put it in a CNC router and sell it, and the person who bought it got electrocuted, then you would most likely be prosecuted if it were found that items on the machine were not safe and had no CE.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    Here is a link to the unit in question

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Happybuy-Sp...s=happybuy+3.0
    Last edited by Gary; 16-10-2017 at 12:54 PM.

  2. A long time ago, i was buying stepper drivers from IMS in the USA and they had no CE.
    Parker, complained and we had a letter requesting further information.
    Luckily they were under the low voltage threshold of the LVD and the case was dropped, but if it was not we would most likely have had a large fine and told to stop importing these drivers.

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    The item was actually shipped from Germany, so yes it should be CE compliant. I've notified the seller of this and pointed out that if the unit isn't correctly bonded when it's installed it could be potentially fatal. I have every right to expect that electrical products, no matter where they are manufactured at least meet basic safety standards.
    Last edited by Jeff; 16-10-2017 at 05:23 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    The item was actually shipped from Germany.
    It's just a 3rd party warehousing service used by a Chinese company from Shanghai.
    On the bright side you should only have to send it back to the warehouse for a refund, then you can buy something with a CE mark ;-)

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeff View Post
    I've notified the seller of this and pointed out that if the unit isn't correctly bonded when it's installed it could be potentially fatal.
    But your qualified electrical engineer would have spotted all that and either wired it correctly or condemned it :D
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  5. It's just a 3rd party warehousing service used by a Chinese company from Shanghai. On the bright side you should only have to send it back to the warehouse for a refund, then you can buy something with a CE mark ;-)
    If it was sent from Germany, it would have been invoiced from Germany, so imported into the EU and resold, so if it is not CE, this is illegal.


    But your qualified electrical engineer would have spotted all that and either wired it correctly or condemned it :D
    Not the point. If it is dangerous it should not be sold regardless of where.

    Also just because it has CE stamped on the device does not make it CE, you should ask for a copy of the certificate and this will give the details of the company who put it through CE and the number that you can check up on.
    Last edited by Gary; 16-10-2017 at 07:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    If it was sent from Germany, it would have been invoiced from Germany, so imported into the EU and resold, so if it is not CE, this is illegal.
    I thought the way these things worked was the items are held in a bonded warehouse, so not technically imported until they are sold. At which point they officially get imported to the EU (or forwarded to another country for import), and any import tax paid?

    So as Nick says, it's still technically sold direct from China, just delivered via third party bonded storage.
    Avoiding the rubbish customer service from AluminiumWarehouse since July '13.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    I thought the way these things worked was the items are held in a bonded warehouse, so not technically imported until they are sold. At which point they officially get imported to the EU (or forwarded to another country for import), and any import tax paid?

    So as Nick says, it's still technically sold direct from China, just delivered via third-party bonded storage.
    I maybe wrong on this, but my understanding is that if it is in a bonded warehouse the vat and duty is not paid and is paid before its released.
    so who pays the VAT? all the adverts are showing as no VAT or duty to add, so the VAT and Duty is paid in the EU and this means that they woudl be invoied in the EU?
    Again, i may be wrong on this, becase i dont get involved with this form of importing.

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