. .

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    I was interested and waiting for replies to this question............surprised there are no comments yet

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to MartinS For This Useful Post:


  3. #2
    Neale's Avatar
    Lives in Plymouth, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 12 Hours Ago Has been a member for 9-10 years. Has a total post count of 1,740. Received thanks 297 times, giving thanks to others 11 times.
    Not a lot of theory here, but this works for me...

    I use 1605, 1-1 belt drive from stepper. Z feed rate is generally lower than X and Y, so you do not need 10mm lead ballscrews. I have never had any problems with downward creep of Z, even with power off, and that's with a big chunk (500x200x20) of tooling plate for the spindle platform and a 2.2KW spindle. I use 8x microstepping. This is not so much for resolution (I have a theoretical 0.003mm step increment) but for motor smoothness. Something around 8x seems like a good compromise between smooth running (fewer microsteps runs more roughly) and loss of torque (with too fine microstepping). However, testing with my touchplate, I have seen +-1 microstep (i.e. +-0.0003mm) repeatability. I doubt if the machine is that accurate when cutting, but even with intricate 3D machining, I have not seen any problems.

  4. The Following User Says Thank You to Neale For This Useful Post:


  5. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Neale View Post
    Not a lot of theory here, but this works for me...

    I use 1605, 1-1 belt drive from stepper. Z feed rate is generally lower than X and Y, so you do not need 10mm lead ballscrews. I have never had any problems with downward creep of Z, even with power off, and that's with a big chunk (500x200x20) of tooling plate for the spindle platform and a 2.2KW spindle. I use 8x microstepping. This is not so much for resolution (I have a theoretical 0.003mm step increment) but for motor smoothness. Something around 8x seems like a good compromise between smooth running (fewer microsteps runs more roughly) and loss of torque (with too fine microstepping). However, testing with my touchplate, I have seen +-1 microstep (i.e. +-0.0003mm) repeatability. I doubt if the machine is that accurate when cutting, but even with intricate 3D machining, I have not seen any problems.
    Ok this answers the question... i will change my bomlist..
    1605 for z 1:1 pullys.

    I have zero hands on experience so...

    Grtz Bert.

    Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-A320FL met Tapatalk

  6. #4
    For a Z I would belt drive and reduce to 2:1. As Z motions are not always as long as the X and Y you can live with a slower speed.

    The 2:1 will also ensure you do not drop as easily when the motors are off. It may not be a concern of course if you are using bog standard screws.

    (I know on my little CNC conversion kits, because I am using ground screws, you can easily backdrive them. Then again the head weighs around 30kg there)
    https://emvioeng.com
    Machine tools and 3D printing supplies. Expanding constantly.

  7. The Following User Says Thank You to komatias For This Useful Post:


  8. #5
    Neale's Avatar
    Lives in Plymouth, United Kingdom. Last Activity: 12 Hours Ago Has been a member for 9-10 years. Has a total post count of 1,740. Received thanks 297 times, giving thanks to others 11 times.
    I reckon that my moving Z components weigh around 15kg and that seems OK with 1605 and 1-1 pulleys. However, one of the great things about belt drive is that you can always change ratios if you need to without too much work.

  9. The Following User Says Thank You to Neale For This Useful Post:


  10. #6
    My Z is also 1:1 with pulleys on 1605 and works fine
    Building a CNC machine to make a better one since 2010 . . .
    MK1 (1st photo), MK2, MK3, MK4

  11. The Following User Says Thank You to routercnc For This Useful Post:


Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Ball screw advice
    By Darren in forum Lead Screws, Nuts & Supports
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-04-2016, 10:52 PM
  2. Ball screw
    By luke11cnc in forum Lead Screws, Nuts & Supports
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 20-10-2011, 01:28 PM
  3. WANTED: 12mm ball screw & nut
    By phill05 in forum Items Wanted
    Replies: 8
    Last Post: 22-06-2010, 09:26 PM
  4. Stationary Ball Screw
    By Wobblybootie in forum Lead Screws, Nuts & Supports
    Replies: 14
    Last Post: 29-12-2009, 01:12 PM
  5. Twin ball screw drive on X - configuration question
    By HiltonSteve in forum Gantry/Router Machines & Building
    Replies: 13
    Last Post: 20-05-2009, 11:13 PM

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •