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    Hi A-Camera

    I made a typing error. What I meant to ask can I connect the dir- and the puls - on the stepper driver, as the pin out that Balazs mentioned used one pin on the rj45 socket for both connections. I was wondering if pulse - and dir- are connected together somewhere or they go to ground?

    Regards

    Andrew

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    EM drives have differential inputs, but canbe connected as single ended in NPN or PNP type setups.

    What you want is to connect the drive -'s to gnd, and then the step/dir to the drive +'s.
    And yes, you could connect the drive -'s together at the drive.
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  3. #3
    Thanks m_c

    I'm a newbie at all this cnc stuff but am learning by doing (and asking) I'm hoping that the uccnc hdbb2 board is a reasonable one compared to all the other chinese bob's. The uccnc software has been a delight to use. I'm only using the usb uc100 version (contemplating uc300 if it's a worthwhile update) My main use for cnc is woodworking (guitar making) some plastic routing pickguards and maybe a little Ali or brass machining. The manual for the hdbb2 is a bit high tech, I think I need a "trigger" version as opposed to the "del boy" version. Thanks to all on the forum that answer my query's and sorry if sometimes all is not clear 1 o'clock in the morning the brain can be a bit loose after a hard day.

    Cheers

    Andrew
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    Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    EM drives have differential inputs, but canbe connected as single ended in NPN or PNP type setups.

    What you want is to connect the drive -'s to gnd, and then the step/dir to the drive +'s.
    And yes, you could connect the drive -'s together at the drive.
    In the manual of the drive it says only NPN and differential? No words for PNP
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  5. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by m_c View Post
    EM drives have differential inputs, but canbe connected as single ended in NPN or PNP type setups.

    What you want is to connect the drive -'s to gnd, and then the step/dir to the drive +'s.
    And yes, you could connect the drive -'s together at the drive.
    Hi m_c

    I hope i'm not being a pain. Would it be ok to connect the (hdbb2 rj45 pin 3 LPT port ground) to the dir - then a link from there to pulse - ? assuming that the ground would come from the bob. Or would I have to run a connection from the pulse - to the gnd. point on the stepper driver ?
    Thanks in advance.

    Andrew

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    Boyan, the EM hardware manual shows all three connection types (NPN, PNP, Differential) - http://leadshine.com/UploadFile/Down/EMhm_P.pdf

    Andrew, for the step/dir signals, you want to stick with the signal ground (i.e. the one from the BOB), and not mix them with any of the power grounds.
    The power grounds should be connected to the signal ground at some point, however you don't want to be using any ground wire that is carrying high currents (i.e. the stepper supply), as it risks problems with interference/noise.
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    Sorry, the manual i have downloaded showed only 2 possible connections, which is strange. Good to know. I thought that strange anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boyan Silyavski View Post
    Sorry, the manual i have downloaded showed only 2 possible connections, which is strange. Good to know. I thought that strange anyway.
    The EM series, although very similar features, have variations between the drives, so you get the generic EM series manuals, and drive specific datasheets.
    EM402 and 806 are very similar apart from voltage/current ratings.
    EM503 and 705 are also similar.

    However the pairs vary in what inputs they can handle. 402 and 806 are step/dir only with a minimum pulse timing of 2.5uS, whereas the 503 and 705 can also handle CW/CCW, but have a minimum pulse width requirement of 10uS.
    The physical inputs/outputs are very similar, except IIRC on the 503 and 705 the enable signal is 24V tolerant, whereas the 402 and 806 you need to add an external resistor if using more than 5V for enable.
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  9. #9
    Well I'm getting to grips with the HDbb2 board wired up a stepper power supply the Leadshine em705 drivers and the bob. The motor did what it was supposed to do went round. When I pushed the velocity settings up on the motor the driver stalled into red light error. I could only reset the drivers by turning the power on and off. Would I be correct in assuming that the drivers could be reset with the FLT+ or - connection. If i'm right where would I connect this to the bob ? Any help gratefully accepted.

    Cheers
    ANdrew

  10. #10
    Thanks M_c
    Balazs from uccnc got in touch with me and said pretty much the same. The pin 3 on the rj45 socket i'll wire to Dir- and link Dir - to the Pulse - . Its a shame they didn't use the pin4 on the rj45 socket as an extra contact to simplify the wiring . Although I suppose I could just bridge the pads on the circuit board between pins 3 and 4 or just link at the stepper driver (probably easier) I wish the manual for the hdbb2 was a bit less technical. For simple folk like me

    Thanks for your help

    Andrew

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