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    Quote Originally Posted by PaisleyPCdoctor View Post
    I was kinda hoping not to spend £250K+ on a test rig to find out. Lol

    Just looking for advice for people that work with metals what they thought.
    And in giving dimensions and materials you are asking them to perform standard calculations based on set formulae which are easily found.
    It isn't Rocket Science and if yo want to pay my hourly rate I will look up the equations and do the calculations for you.

    Around 8 years ago I wanted to know about material thicknesses in cylinders for a variety of diameters and pressures and looked up the required mechanical engineering equations, if you were to ask this on a mechanical engineering forum I'd expect an "off the cuff" answer but generally speaking by asking this here you are just expecting someone else to do your work for you, and someone might, but without seeing their working how will you know if the answer is any good?
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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    Just out of interest, took your dimensions and applied a load of 200N to mild steel and 6061 alu:


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    10mm Steel deflection = 0.06861 mm

    25mm Alu deflection = 0.01471 mm


    So according to that simulation, the 25mm alu would deflect less.

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  4. #3
    Quote Originally Posted by Zeeflyboy View Post
    Just out of interest, took your dimensions and applied a load of 200N to mild steel and 6061 alu:


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    10mm Steel deflection = 0.06861 mm

    25mm Alu deflection = 0.01471 mm


    So according to that simulation, the 25mm alu would deflect less.
    That is amazing! Totally opposite from what I thoughtModulus of Elasticity. I have the 25mm aluminium, but thought I'd be better buying steel. Excellent news. Thanks for you efforts- totally appreciated.

  5. #4
    Good man!
    Someone else was willing to do the basic maths for you!
    You should do a degree course now! :D
    Last edited by magicniner; 17-12-2017 at 09:42 PM.
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  6. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    And in giving dimensions and materials you are asking them to perform standard calculations based on set formulae which are easily found.
    It isn't Rocket Science and if yo want to pay my hourly rate I will look up the equations and do the calculations for you.

    Around 8 years ago I wanted to know about material thicknesses in cylinders for a variety of diameters and pressures and looked up the required mechanical engineering equations, if you were to ask this on a mechanical engineering forum I'd expect an "off the cuff" answer but generally speaking by asking this here you are just expecting someone else to do your work for you, and someone might, but without seeing their working how will you know if the answer is any good?
    Do you actually help anyone on this forum or just troll members with snipes, criticisms and general vinegar titted grumpiness?
    #boring

  7. #6
    Yes,
    I'm glad you ask, actually I answer lots of direct relevant questions with well thought out technical answers from people who aren't lazy clueless wakners who can't be bothered to carry out a basic Google search to see if there is a good answer just sitting there for them on the net.
    But I guess you are too lazy to search and discover that too!
    #SLACKER!
    ;-)
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  8. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Yes,
    I'm glad you ask, actually I answer lots of direct relevant questions with well thought out technical answers from people who aren't lazy clueless wakners who can't be bothered to carry out a basic Google search to see if there is a good answer just sitting there for them on the net.
    But I guess you are too lazy to search and discover that too!
    #SLACKER!
    ;-)
    What you mean is that you didn't have a clue what the answer is so you snipe instead. Lol. Go troll someone else. For the record, any question I ask on this forum is directed SPECIFICALLY NOT at you, so please ignore it. I am directing it at technically knowledgeable people who may or may not choose to help. Goodbye.
    Last edited by PaisleyPCdoctor; 17-12-2017 at 10:16 PM.

  9. #8
    Quote Originally Posted by PaisleyPCdoctor View Post
    ����What you mean is that you didn't have a clue what the answer is so you snipe instead. Lol. Go troll someone else. ������ For the record, any question I ask on this forum is directed SPECIFICALLY NOT at you, so please ignore it. I am directing it at technically knowledgeable people who may or may not choose to help. Goodbye.
    No,
    I mean you come across as someone who can't be bothered to do even basic research for yourself, even though very good answers are available to a fairly basic Google search which could be expected of any "PC Doctor".

    For the record you can use your preferences to ignore my responses, making a bit of an effort would have the same effect ;-)

    P.S. use of multiple question marks is not a good personality stability sign :D
    Last edited by magicniner; 17-12-2017 at 10:21 PM.
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  10. #9
    Magicniner,
    I honestly don't find any of your replies helpful at all,

    I'm respectfully and hopefully asking for you to not respond to any of my posts. It's really easy- you literally don't have to do anything.

  11. #10
    Quote Originally Posted by PaisleyPCdoctor View Post
    Magicniner,
    I honestly don't find any of your replies helpful at all,

    I'm respectfully and hopefully asking for you to not respond to any of my posts. It's really easy- you literally don't have to do anything.
    Be willing to do some work for yourself, making an effort, even if you fail abysmally in your efforts, reads far better than wanting an answer for bugger-all effort.
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

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