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  1. #1
    Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
    Don't talk daft.!!! . . . Fred at BST automation in China knocks spots off Cnc4you prices and genuine Hiwin rails not copys.
    To give an example just on Hi-win rails/bearings alone I've just priced rails/bearings from last order I got from him at cnc4you prices and would have cost £2681.30 for the same rails/bearings. From Fred cost £963.00 + Vat

    When you buy rails/bearings, ball screws, Bk bearings, energy chain etc from him you'll save even more. Fred is great guy to deal with, completely trust worthy and you'll have the parts usualy within 2weeks or even less depending on how busy. I've had stuff in 5 days.
    Can you send me a link to Fred please I looked at alixpress and must be searching for the wrong thing I find lots of Hiwin's (An clones) but none that cheap. I did find some clone rail at $350 with 4 carriages for 2m length which I was tempted as I want longer than 3m travel been struggling to find rail any longer than 3000mm. So if I have to but the rail up then 2 2m lengths will work very nicely.

    I'm searching for hgr25 linear rail?

    What I really want is a supplier or Iko 25mm rail as I have 8 carriages for that, which are roller bearings rather than ball bearings. But the only upplier I found were crazy crazy expensive like £400+ for 60cm length of rail alone.
    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/10880...60cm-work-area My first CNC build WIP 120cm*80cm

    If you didn't buy it from China the company you bought it from did ;)

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    Can you send me a link to Fred please
    xxxxxbstlinear at gmail.comxxxx
    ..Clive
    The more you know, The better you know, How little you know

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  4. #3
    This must be Fred then
    http://www.fbtmotion.com/

    I googled bstlinear

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    I thought the price of the rail was very good value from cnc4you I had planned to buy clone carriages from alixpress or original Hiwin's ones. I like the wider flange carriages they're just better. If you can link me to £526 for 2*2.7m Hiwin 25mm with carriages all original I'm there! I'll get them ordered as soon as I can sell a kidney ;)

    I had a good look over cnc4you and the only things I would buy from them is the rail (Possibly the carriage just for simplicity), the 4nm nema 23's and the R&P if I ever do an R&P project.

    I've had good experiences with clone rail so it doesn't bother me to take the risk, same with ballscrews but what I do think is worth it is getting all my bearings & fittings from Fred.
    Last edited by Desertboy; 03-02-2018 at 08:56 AM.
    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/10880...60cm-work-area My first CNC build WIP 120cm*80cm

    If you didn't buy it from China the company you bought it from did ;)

  5. #4
    This is Fred send him an email asking for a quote with the lengths you want along with other stuff.
    At this moment in time because it's their holidays he'll probably not quote you for lengths above 3000mm but they will ship them. However, there will be premium to pay. Still, it will be must cheaper than cnc4you.

    https://bstmotion.aliexpress.com/store/314742


    https://bstmotion.aliexpress.com/store/314742

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  7. #5
    Quote Originally Posted by Desertboy View Post
    I've had good experiences with clone rail so it doesn't bother me to take the risk, same with ballscrews but what I do think is worth it is getting all my bearings & fittings from Fred.
    What experience.? Have you got working machine that has been working with clone rails for more than few months.?

    The Acid test is not if they work or are accurate, that should be a given for precision rails. But how well they hold up over time.! I've got some Hiwin rails on machine that are 12 years old which I bought second hand and they are has good today as when I fitted them. Doubt those Clone rails will still be around in 12yrs +

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  9. I recently enquired to cnc4you about a control board and driver price, only to be told that unless I supplied my name, address, phone number and vat number (which I don't have) a quote could not be given, but I am welcome to choose a kit from the site.
    The kits on the site did not have the board I'm after.
    Not very helpful, not a good way to conduct business.

  10. #7
    Quote Originally Posted by pmcb1011 View Post
    I recently enquired to cnc4you about a control board and driver price, only to be told that unless I supplied my name, address, phone number and vat number (which I don't have) a quote could not be given, but I am welcome to choose a kit from the site.
    The kits on the site did not have the board I'm after.
    Not very helpful, not a good way to conduct business.
    Yes I too had negative encounter when I phoned asking about motors which showed out of stock. Only to be Told he had some motors in stock but wouldn't sell me over the phone. Instead I had to email someone called Keith who just told me out of stock and even thou I told I'd been told they had stock he didn't reply. So Stuff them I say.!!
    Last edited by JAZZCNC; 03-02-2018 at 09:02 PM.

  11. #8
    I'm glad I asked about this site now I thought it was all legitimate pieces.

  12. #9
    "Fred Lee: Hi Stuart,
    Thanks for your inquiry.
    The HIWIN Rail generally stock in 4000mm,so 3000mm is no problem,but there have a question is presently all of the shipping company not pick up more than 3000mm package,so we are unable to arrange the shipment.
    For such length,recommend you can buy from local market since it is longer and heavy,freight will be expensive also.
    For 2000mm ball screw,recommend you'd better choose 25mm diamater.
    Best wishes
    Fred "

    I think I'm going with 3m Hiwin from Fred, Jazz is right his price is far too good on the official rail, looks like 4m is too much hassle unless I have the rail cut, ground flat and butt 2 lengths together.

    I asked him for 2520 ballscrew so probably a little confusion there I suspect he means 2525 screws.

    I rang cnc4you up and they quoted over the phone, no shit about VAT number told me I could collect next day. They probably can't get the controller but that's no excuse for crappy service, it is something I've seen a lot in the motor trade. Sometimes people don't want your business because they're stupid lol.
    Last edited by Desertboy; 05-02-2018 at 08:40 AM.
    http://www.mycncuk.com/threads/10880...60cm-work-area My first CNC build WIP 120cm*80cm

    If you didn't buy it from China the company you bought it from did ;)

  13. #10
    searched sellers for UC400Eth (not many) and awaiting a quote from CNCDrive.com but I found this site as well, https://www.automationtechnologiesin...on-controller/ has anyone used these people as well?

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