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  1. #1
    These machines are not too bad though.

    I think the castings are all done by Syil. (Was talking to Aaron Powter about this earlier this morning)

    For a little less money, you can get the Syil S7 or X7 Combo nowdays, delivered and inclusive of VAT. (Just quoted for one with a Siemens 808D/Advance)
    <---- scratch that, I saw the price of the Haas, not the ones by Jogara

    There is also the option of the Skyfire if you are happy to wait.
    Last edited by komatias; 09-04-2018 at 04:35 PM.
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  2. #2
    Quote Originally Posted by komatias View Post
    These machines are not too bad though.

    I think the castings are all done by Syil. (Was talking to Aaron Powter about this earlier this morning)

    For a little less money, you can get the Syil S7 or X7 Combo nowdays, delivered and inclusive of VAT. (Just quoted for one with a Siemens 808D/Advance)
    <---- scratch that, I saw the price of the Haas, not the ones by Jogara

    There is also the option of the Skyfire if you are happy to wait.
    I have been looking at Skyfire a lot recently (again not in a position to buy a VMC or a little VMC).

    They look okay but they are flaky on support as there is language barrier and there are a few quirks with their machines that the SF community have and are working on fixing.


    Syil S7 looks to be around £23,000 with enclosure, 8080D, ATC (16 of course) before import and shipping? Only looked on their own website, not a dealer.

  3. #3
    Apart from the top couple of models the Opti models look like CNC'd small vertical milling machines, on a stand, in a box and lacking a proper VMC Chassis.
    If you're looking at a non-tool changer model why not convert a manual mill and build your own stand and box, sliding doors aren't that expensive to build ;-)
    Last edited by magicniner; 09-04-2018 at 05:37 PM.
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  4. #4
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    Apart from the top couple of models the Opti models look like CNC'd small vertical milling machines, on a stand, in a box and lacking a proper VMC Chassis.
    If you're looking at a non-tool changer model why not convert a manual mill and build your own stand and box, sliding doors aren't that expensive to build ;-)
    I think I would want ATC if I get to that stage xD

  5. #5
    The F3 is not ATC
    You think that's too expensive? You're not a Model Engineer are you? :D

  6. #6
    Quote Originally Posted by magicniner View Post
    The F3 is not ATC
    Thought it might not.

    Pretty much only looking at the F80 now as well because of the work envelope.

  7. #7
    £30-35k is super expensive. Haas vmc's start at £20k and XYZ machinetools do good mills less that £35k and they are all BT40 spindles so more rigid

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