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    It has the 12 v input, a light is on on the bob at the end of the input pins. It makes a subtle high pitch noise when I connect any of the input pins to the ground pin, but it does not register it in mach 3.
    All grounds are together, but now I.m testing it with a single wire.
    Pc gnd is not connected to anything.
    The only difference with this bob is that it has a P14, to which all I ran all ENBL- from the drivers.

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    does it still make a noise if you remover the jumper to disable the relay ?
    (I can't think of anything other than the relay that could make a noise)

    having a quick look at the data sheet for the LM317 regulator
    the 12 to 24V DC supply needs to be a minimum of 13.5V

    the supply goes via a diode that drops about 0.6V and the LM317 regulator should have an input that's at least 3V more than the 10V output

    is the 12V supply regulated ? or is it unregulated and is more than 12V if lightly loaded

    for your initial tests you can disconnect the connection to the stepper driver enable

    John


    PS

    a simple input tester I used to test a similar BOB without using a PC (or motion controller)

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    the supply is a 12v transformer, which used to power up some car led.s strips. the multimeter reads 12.1 v. it is the one i use for the enclosure fans.
    as i fiddled with the wires, somehow it works now. probably a bad connection from the 12v supply. so Thank you!

    I looked a bit online, and the eccomerce webs in my country have plenty of 12v, but no 24 supply. Surely there might be some specialized shops somewhere.

    It works like this now. Do I ask for trouble if I don.t use a higher supply, 13.5v and above?

    Now on the other side of the bob, for spindle control via mach 3, from what I understand, the gnd pin goes to ACM, the 0-10v to V1, 1st relay pin (5th in order) to DCM, and 2nd relay pin to FOR.

    Is this correct?

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    great to see you have it working even if your not 100% sure which connection you re-made during your investigation

    your connection to the VFD looks correct

    in practice using the 12V supply probably will work

    while the LM317's data sheet gives the minimum supply voltage as V out +3V this will be the worse case accounting for the production spread in the IC's parameters

    even if the supply is too low for the regulator to regulate the output as intended

    the fact you have a regulated 12V supply
    the voltage is likely to be near to 10V and not change too much and
    cause the calibration of analogue control voltage to the VFD to vary

    John

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    I have another identical supply, so wiring it in series might give me 24v, or 20 due to what you said. I might have a spare laptop charger somewhere, which is 17 or 19v.
    If it is a requirement, I.ll do it.
    Thanks again for the detailed answer. :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radu_Andrei View Post
    I have another identical supply, so wiring it in series might give me 24v, or 20 due to what you said. I might have a spare laptop charger somewhere, which is 17 or 19v.
    If it is a requirement, I.ll do it.
    Thanks again for the detailed answer. :)
    Leave it alone at 12v - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. If you get 0 - 10v on the analogue output, you'll be fine.
    Last edited by cropwell; 11-08-2018 at 02:32 PM.

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    Ok. Thank you. And yes, the 5v usb cable is run from the pc. I have a phone charger available as well. It reads 4.74v at pc5v and pcgnd.
    Does it matter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by john swift View Post

    PS

    a simple input tester I used to test a similar BOB without using a PC (or motion controller)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radu_Andrei View Post
    Pc gnd is not connected to anything.
    So you are using a USB cable from the PC?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radu_Andrei View Post
    It has the 12 v input, a light is on on the bob at the end of the input pins. It makes a subtle high pitch noise when I connect any of the input pins to the ground pin, but it does not register it in mach 3.
    All grounds are together, but now I.m testing it with a single wire.
    Pc gnd is not connected to anything.
    The only difference with this bob is that it has a P14, to which all I ran all ENBL- from the drivers.
    What voltage do you have between an input pin and ground with out any switch connected?
    ..Clive
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