cool
so i wouldnt need an encoder to check the revs moved if i just use the gear you show above?
bloody marvelous if thats the case ( can you please confirm my reasoning )
ive just ordered

https://www.ebay.com/itm/120W-High-T...97.m4902.l9144

with a ratio of 1:7.5 which should give me 3.21 NM as far as i can see
its a 120w motor so will be heaps better than the little ones
I hope im reading everything as i should be.
appreciate all your help.
Richard