Poorly N sick Fadal 15 VMC Will live again!

**johngoodrich** · 29-02-2020

Jazz ignore him. you give your opinions with honesty and give so many people on here the help they need from experience of these types of machines. you are definitely in my top people on this forum and I don't think people want you to leave.

**JAZZCNC** · 29-02-2020

Originally Posted by johngoodrich

Jazz ignore him. you give your opinions with honesty and give so many people on here the help they need from experience of these types of machines. you are definitely in my top people on this forum and I don't think people want you to leave.

Thanks, John but there's a limit to how many times you can be attacked on a personal level and I've just about had enough. I don't need this Crap, esp from people who I've gone out of my way to help in the past. If that's how it truly is then why the hell should I carry on devoting my time and energy passing on my experience to people who just turn around and insult you. . . Don't need this Shit.!

**Chaz** · 29-02-2020

Originally Posted by JAZZCNC

Thanks, John but there's a limit to how many times you can be attacked on a personal level and I've just about had enough. I don't need this Crap, esp from people who I've gone out of my way to help in the past. If that's how it truly is then why the hell should I carry on devoting my time and energy passing on my experience to people who just turn around and insult you. . . Don't need this Shit.!

Jazz, two things.

1. You left the forum before as people seemed to struggle to get along with you. This feels like Deja Vu.

2. Why don't you tell everyone the full story behind the help you gave me?

Otherwise, let's just leave it at that. You do your thing, I'll do mine and I wont interfere with your thread(s) again.

Thanks

**JAZZCNC** · 29-02-2020

Originally Posted by Chaz

Jazz, two things.

1. You left the forum before as people seemed to struggle to get along with you. This feels like Deja Vu.

Chaz gets your fact straight. I never left the forum, circumstances in my life which I won't get into with you, made it so had a long absence. So if you took that or read more into it then that's your problem.

Originally Posted by Chaz

2. Why don't you tell everyone the full story behind the help you gave me?

Don't try to make this sound more sinister than it is, and if I'm honest I can't remember why I helped you, all I know is I did when I didn't really need to. More fool me.!

**Chaz** · 29-02-2020

Originally Posted by JAZZCNC

Chaz gets your fact straight. I never left the forum, circumstances in my life which I won't get into with you, made it so had a long absence. So if you took that or read more into it then that's your problem.

Don't try to make this sound more sinister than it is, and if I'm honest I can't remember why I helped you, all I know is I did when I didn't really need to. More fool me.!

Ill remind you.

Connect the 0-10V output from the CS Labs unit to the Sprint DC control board.

I took the repair cost on the chin, you helped me with information previous to this and after too and made some plates for my Triac. I still have those plates despite having sold the machine as they remind of me the fine work you do.

**BobTSkutter** · 29-02-2020

Hello, this is my first post. I know it's normal to introduce yourself, but I thought I would chime in and ask everyone to calm down. We dont have to like everyone all of the time, but please stop arguing. Does anyone want a cup of tea, I might have some hobnobs somewhere.
Bob

**Neale** · 21-04-2020

Dean - you mention running this off single-phase. What kind of spindle motor would that be? It looks like a big, heavy machine so 4KW or so spindle motor? Just curious - no way would it fit my workshop! Interesting to watch the design/component choice/build proces - thanks for letting us watch the thought processes!

**JAZZCNC** · 21-04-2020

Originally Posted by Neale

Dean - you mention running this off single-phase. What kind of spindle motor would that be? It looks like a big, heavy machine so 4KW or so spindle motor? Just curious - no way would it fit my workshop! Interesting to watch the design/component choice/build proces - thanks for letting us watch the thought processes!

It's 7.5Kw/10HP Neale. It will just about run off a single phase but obviously not a 13A supply...Lol
The trick will be finding a VFD that plays nice with this motor and does closed loop.!! . . . I may just have to stick with sensorless Vector drive and feed the encoder back to the controller for ridged tapping and stick with the Wye/Delta to control speed/torque.

Edit: Also under consideration is a Servo Spindle motor.!!

The footprint isn't massive really for this size machine, or it won't be when I've finished. W=1900 D=1700 The height I think will just fit under an 8ft ceiling.
To be honest, If I wanted to get really crazy about it the whole enclosure comes apart and I could make the machine narrower by about 500mm with maybe a slightly less wide door opening but I won't be going to those extremes . .

**Uguessedit** · 26-04-2020

Just saw your last post. You may want to check with automation direct they have sensored vector drives but I don’t know if the size you need will operate on single phase. If it does you would likely need to go with a larger vector drive to fit your needs. Also you could compare it to buying a servo motor and drive package from a AliExpress vendor I’m certain I’ve seen them in the 7.5 to 10hp range with 15,000rpm Complete package for around $2,000usd. I suspect any good parts you’ve taken off should fetch enough to offset the cost of your build.

**JAZZCNC** · 26-04-2020

Originally Posted by Uguessedit

Just saw your last post. You may want to check with automation direct they have sensored vector drives but I don’t know if the size you need will operate on single phase. If it does you would likely need to go with a larger vector drive to fit your needs. Also you could compare it to buying a servo motor and drive package from a AliExpress vendor I’m certain I’ve seen them in the 7.5 to 10hp range with 15,000rpm Complete package for around $2,000usd. I suspect any good parts you’ve taken off should fetch enough to offset the cost of your build.

Hi,
Yes, I've seen and considered those Servo motor packages. To be honest, there's nothing wrong with the AMC Drive or Baldor Spindle it's just the 3 phase I'm trying to get away from, but that might not be so easy to do and keep all the power it currently has.

The plan is to remove the DC motors and drives which all work, only the Z-axis card is faulty. I think some of the control cards have gone down which is why I've pulled it apart, it's just not worth replacing Axis and Control cards without knowing 100% if that's all that's wrong.

When I've fully decided which route I'm taking then I'll make a list of what I'm selling. Currently, it's looking like Delta AC servos with either a Centroid OAK controller or a Chinese GSK controller. So I'll have pretty much everything that's inside a Fadal and the Monitor, keyboard, etc in the control panel, Plus the Fadal VH65 4th axis with full wiring harness and drive plus axis card. So like you say it should go a long way to offset some of the costs, provided I can find buyers.!

I'm still sat on the fence regards the spindle.!!