Quote Originally Posted by JAZZCNC View Post
I try to help people avoid problems they cannot see by using all my experience of building machines and helping 100's no 1000's of people over 15yrs+ who have taken similar routes and nearly gave up due to either poor design and build frustrations or woeful under budgeting. You gave a Budget of £500 so all my advice was based on this. You also proposed design material that is neither cheap or suitable for a successful machine.!

I understand the experimenting for experimentation's sake I do it every week in some way or another. But what I don't understand is why to do it when you are being advised by an experienced builder that there are better ways which won't cost any more money and in fact, will probably cost less.? All it would take is to experiment with a Welder.?

I also don't understand why anyone would join a forum seeking advice then ignore it.? Also, don't get why someone would seek to build a machine but state they have no time or inclination to build one.? . . . This seems to me you just like wasting people's time so you'll get no more from me I'm afraid. Good luck.!!
I am clearly not expressing myself very well.
To be clear, your (and everyone elses) input is appreciated. I am taking note of it and it will not be ignored. I am not stupid, it is clear already that part of what I was proposing is silly. But that doesn't mean it was stupid to ask the question and it doesn't mean it was stupid to question to try to understand where the posters were coming from and try to put across another point of view.

You might have noticed that the last few posts were me discussing with ericks his ally framed machine?
You will not be aware that I spent part of my evening looking at steel prices and thinking about how that might affect the design. You will also not be aware that I also spent some time looking at whether a converted mini mill might suite me better. Until I actually start buying stuff nothing if fixed in stone.

Am I wasting peoples time? I thought this was a discussion forum for, errr... discussions?? With that in mind, thank you for your input so far, it is genuinely appreciated (apart from perhaps that last post), it would be a shame but I will not lose any sleep if you feel you don't want to contribute any more.