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[NordicCnc]

Any recommendations on building your electronics enclosure yourself versus buying one? I am struggling to find one that I think will be large enough for any sensible price. I want to fit everything in the sam enclose, which includes:

(3 phase 400V mains)
- AC line reactor
- Mains filter
- E550 Sunfar VFD
- 4x Dyn4 drives
- 1A schaffner filters for each drive
- MB3 breakout board
- 1 or 2 24VDC power supplys
- Mains circuit breaker
- Contactor for E-stop circuit
- Relay for E-stop circuit
- Circuit breakers for each independent phase (insteaf of regular fuses)
- Terminals

It starts to seem like I would nees atleast a cabinet sized 800x600x250mm. I figure welding my out of sheet metal would be cheapest.

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[JAZZCNC]

Any recommendations on building your electronics enclosure yourself versus buying one? I am struggling to find one that I think will be large enough for any sensible price. I want to fit everything in the sam enclose, which includes:

(3 phase 400V mains)
- AC line reactor
- Mains filter
- E550 Sunfar VFD
- 4x Dyn4 drives
- 1A schaffner filters for each drive
- MB3 breakout board
- 1 or 2 24VDC power supplys
- Mains circuit breaker
- Contactor for E-stop circuit
- Relay for E-stop circuit
- Circuit breakers for each independent phase (insteaf of regular fuses)
- Terminals

It starts to seem like I would nees atleast a cabinet sized 800x600x250mm. I figure welding my out of sheet metal would be cheapest.

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Don't buy anything until you have everything electrical and lay it out on the bench. Servo drives require a lot more space than steppers for cooling purposes and just physically larger anyway. Also think about fitting fans and the Air flow when placing drives etc.

Given that your mostly using extrusion then I'd use aluminium panels and some small extrusion and build the control box into the lower frame if possible.

[JAZZCNC]

Talk about keeping us in suspenders,??? . . . . Was the pitch wrong.?

[NordicCnc]

Talk about keeping us in suspenders,??? . . . . Was the pitch wrong.?

Sorry, the pitch was of course correct! Thanks for having me double check, I dont think I've realized unless until the build was finished!

About building the enclosure into lower frame with aluminium plates is a good idea. I have a large 2mm aluminium sheet lying around that I could use. For the next step I will lay out the electrical components in 3D and make a wiring diagram to ensure I have accounted for everything.

I've seen that atleast both DMM and Sunfar recommends either mains filter or both mains filter and line reactor for the mains power supply. I have seen people here using line filters but I haven't come across anyone using line reactors yet. Is that really as necessary as the manufacturers are claiming it to be?

Also mounting the electrical enclosure directly to the frame (made of aluminium) would it be a problem since it would basically be in direct contact with the machine frame? I mean that would be a direct earth connection for the enclosure. I am not too into electronics (yet)!

Thanks everyone for your good and helpful advice!

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[Clive S]

Also mounting the electrical enclosure directly to the frame (made of aluminium) would it be a problem since it would basically be in direct contact with the machine frame? I mean that would be a direct earth connection for the enclosure. I am not too into electronics (yet)!

No. That will be fine just make sure that all grounds go to one star point. If the frame is painted I would make a direct connection from the box to the frame.

[JAZZCNC]

I've seen that atleast both DMM and Sunfar recommends either mains filter or both mains filter and line reactor for the mains power supply. I have seen people here using line filters but I haven't come across anyone using line reactors yet. Is that really as necessary as the manufacturers are claiming it to be?

Also mounting the electrical enclosure directly to the frame (made of aluminium) would it be a problem since it would basically be in direct contact with the machine frame? I mean that would be a direct earth connection for the enclosure. I am not too into electronics (yet)!

I would at least fit a mains filter because of them being Servo's, however, I have seen that some people have had issues with DMM servo's because they didn't use line reactors so you might want to fit them to be safe, or just go with mains filter and if you get any issues you can always slip a line reactor in between.!
It mostly depends on your incoming supply quality I think and I seem to remember those who have had issues where US based which works on different Freq and voltage to EU.

Regards the frame then yes it's fine and you would want the earth to the frame anyway for safety just in case a wire shorted to the frame.

[NordicCnc]

I would at least fit a mains filter because of them being Servo's, however, I have seen that some people have had issues with DMM servo's because they didn't use line reactors so you might want to fit them to be safe, or just go with mains filter and if you get any issues you can always slip a line reactor in between.!
It mostly depends on your incoming supply quality I think and I seem to remember those who have had issues where US based which works on different Freq and voltage to EU.

Regards the frame then yes it's fine and you would want the earth to the frame anyway for safety just in case a wire shorted to the frame.

No. That will be fine just make sure that all grounds go to one star point. If the frame is painted I would make a direct connection from the box to the frame.

Thanks both of you! This helps a ton. A line reactor costs about 100€, so not a big deal. I will fit one just to be sure!

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[NordicCnc]

JAZZCNC, if you read this I have a question for you. How do you go about assembling the L-shape gantry together? I have received my aluminium profiles and to my surprise I noticed that they are not flat in the middle. It is probably hard to see in the picture but it is about 0.5mm.



I was thinking that I could sand it down, since the only critical thing would be that it is flat on the sides so that it wont wiggle when assembled.